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toaoaoad

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  1. 1 hour ago, aderei said:

    I was watching a woulg interview on youtube with an artist from detroit underground talking about their tracks....a super edited sound design thing....it struck me how unexperimental it was...every microsecond considered....and then last night I listened to Dublin 2022 and it struck me how I'm not sure what experimental music is....surely it has to be live? 

    Probably a semantic rabbit-hole but: IMO, only the artist can definitively say whether a work is experimental. To me it means I don't execute total control over the outcome, which I think is what you're talking about in your post. Or it means I started out not really knowing where it was going to go. But I think "experimental" as a label can't really be applied externally if we don't know what the artist's process was. We speculate that something sounds intentional or unintentional, or things like "uninspired", but only the artist knows for sure. I think when music critics or whatever call music "experimental" it means that objectively the artist seems to be exploring unexplored territory in some way, taking chances, or maybe it just sounds weird. But we don't actually know if the artist hasn't told us. And sometimes it ends up being the opposite of what we think.

    Maybe Autechre is "experimental" based on what Sean says about his being more interested in exploring unexpected things that happen than setting out to make specific things. That's an experimental process pretty much by definition. Then there's the whole Max component: how much is controlled and how much is not? (We don't know the specifics.) So you could also call that experimental in a way.

    On the other hand, by the time they're out performing the live sets, or finishing tracks for release, they have mastery over what they're doing. So for us to call Ae "experimental" kinda undercuts their mastery - it's evident in music of this calibre that these guys know what they're doing!

    :shrug:

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  2. 2 hours ago, perunamuusi said:

    Click on the link that takes you to the post. Then edit the post. 

     

    I shall soon be demonstrating the above by deleting the attachment of Nadine Dorries eating a live rat.

    If you had successfully deleted it from your account, it would also be missing from where I quoted you in the above post. (It's still there.)

  3. 19 minutes ago, perunamuusi said:

    Click on the link that takes you to the post. Then edit the post. 

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    I shall soon be demonstrating the above by deleting the attachment of Nadine Dorries eating a live rat.

    If you can believe it, I tried a lot of things before posting my question :cisfor:

    Yes you can delete the post containing the attachment, but there's nothing in the menu that allows to delete the attachment from your account entirely. Many people have asked. Joyrex previously said it's a setting he doesn't want. But I think people want the option, myself included.

  4. 1. I'd like to be able to delete attachments. I did a search and looks like this has been discussed, @Joyrex I think your reasoning was that it would create broken/missing content in posts.  I get that but at the same time there are already plenty of existing issues that cause the same problem (e.g. the ongoing emoji problem; people posting image links from websites that disappear, etc) so is it really a big deal? There's broken/missing content everywhere. I think the right to delete one's own uploaded attachments from the server outweighs the importance of missing content in posts.

    A possible workaround would be a setting that says something like "this attachment is in use, are you sure you want to delete?", and attachments that aren't in use anymore would be delete-able. :shrug:

    2.  Wasn't there a giphy button in the post box before or am I just imagining that?

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  5. On 9/23/2023 at 1:36 PM, toaoaoad said:

    On a somewhat related note I recently got back into lacto-fermentation, which I was really into many years ago but eventually stopped also due to laziness. Turnips are my favourite. They're so good, they have just the right amount of bitterness that combines with the sour and effervescence to make them so delicious, I'll just eat it by itself right out of the jar lol. Filtered water and a bit of sea salt in a good jar is all you need - cabbage and turnips work the best, other veggies might need a bit of a boost (some kind of probiotic or a bit of brine from a previous batch). Hell yeah hippie food.


    Polished off the turnips and currently enjoying a batch of cauliflower that turned out fantastic. Started 2 jars of good ol cabbage tonight. It is definitely a lot of work but seriously it's so good, it's like a drug 

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  6. Also I don't want to neglect to mention that most books about creativity will all say the same thing: keep working on stuff whether you feel like it or not. I think that's especially true for people who are trying to make a living as creatives, but as a general principle it's true universally.

    I haven't done this in recent years. In case it wasn't already obvious I've turned into a real miserable fuck since 2020. I haven't had enough desire to be creative in the first place to want to push myself to work every day like that. But there have been periods of my life when I did work on stuff every day regardless of mood. And it does work, because you get into a flow and ideas come more easily in that state. But you have to be a good editor too.

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    Sean: I don’t want to talk about it publicly at all. So I just don’t talk about it, I’d rather just enact it. Our plan at the moment is that we’re just going to keep playing live, basically, and recording and releasing them. So this is it. This is the new material.

    Sean pls

  8. 3 hours ago, drillkicker said:

    My original post may have been false.  I still feel the urge to put work into composition even when i am happy.

    Glad to hear it!  I don't think this means your post was false though. It's true that creativity can arise out of lots of different states of mind and life conditions. Loneliness just happens to be one of them, and that was true for you at the time and led to a specific type of creative process. Happiness can be another one. You mentioned being in a band. For me, playing music with other people is a whole different story. I don't do any tracks with other people, so my process for making tracks is definitely a personal one and can be enhanced by circumstances that involve being isolated, alienated, or just from periods of staying indoors a lot to be cozy in the winter or avoiding the heat in summer.  But yeah I fucking love playing music with other people, I'm a jazz musician by training/education so the art form sort of demands the interaction with others to really be what it is. And there's nothing else that satisfies in the same way. So right on :beer:

    3 hours ago, drillkicker said:

    Please dont delete your older works.  I dont know what they sound like but i personally couldnt imagine intentionally deleting even the stupidest old shit that ive made.  Storage space is so cheap these days that you can just put all that stuff into a folder of stuff you dont care for and forget about it.  Its better than deleting it forever.  I just bought myself a 512GB SD card for my music and my entire life's work fits on just 50GB of it.  It's worth it to keep even the stuff that you dont like, even if just for sentimental reasons.

    Ehhh, see if you still feel this way in another ten years lol. It really piles up. Maybe for me the mental burden is that I think some of the stuff is just embarrassing. I always imagine what if I die suddenly and my family and friends have to wade through this shit. Making tracks is a really personal thing for me as I mentioned above. For many years most people in my life didn't even know it was something I do, they just knew me as a pianist or whatever. I just have stupid hangups like that though, at the end of the day none of it probably matters. None of this does.

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  9. I LOVE the new live stuff but still feel a bit bummed by the last part where he says there's no album coming (greedy fanslut I am).  Surely they have loads of casual seqs from the new system lying around :catrecline:

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  10. I guess what ties this together with your original post is the idea of being in an ideal state of mind to get immersed in a project. For you it was loneliness, not just loneliness but what sounds like a rejection of the people around you/your perceived rejection of you by them. And also a goal to commemorate a past project. This is relatable and probably why your post stuck in my head in the first place and why I eventually felt compelled to reply to it, even if my current issue is a bit different from yours.

    And maybe that's because I don't have those same conditions; my current troubles are different from that. But I remember, in 2014-2015, my life had fallen apart, I had lost my job and I had alienated most people I used to know. I was spending most of my time in isolation, besides long walks and seeing my boyfriend. And I felt like it was finally my time to feel free to do nothing but create, like my only job was to be an artist. (Yeah maybe this is why pandemic conditions were not such a difficult adjustment for me as for other people lol). I made loads of material during that time, day and night. I was determined to finish some neglected projects and also conceived and completed an entirely new one that is still my proudest work. But the conditions of my life were kinda similar to yours and I had that same obsessive drive to do it - maybe not the same focus tho, as I had loads of files spinning out in all directions, but with a common thread.

    I don't want to say I wish to experience that again lol, those specific life circumstances. It was my first time through the wringer and I was younger so I still had optimism about it all. I do wish that my current mental health/life conditions would drive me to create in the same way it did then, but things change, everything changes, and I just don't feel that way right now.

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  11. Yeah same here, that's the positive flipside of having so much unfinished material and a huge library of sounds I've created over 25 years. Constantly repurposing parts of different things, or finding that an old scrap is exactly what I need to fit into a current track that's "missing something".  

    It's still a lot to handle emotionally. Every once in awhile I start digging through the archives and feeling sad that I spent so much time on things that went nowhere. Especially really old stuff from highschool when I had the patience to program really meticulous shit in a tracker lol but the tracks don't really hold up today. Or anything over the years that I spent a lot of time on that ended up neglected and forgotten.

    There are so many things I've made (I mean started) that I eventually forgot about as new projects and folders piled up. Then I get overwhelmed thinking I have to salvage it. Been a long time since I tried going through and doing a purge, definitively choosing that some things don't need to exist, and deleting them forever. It's like having a hoarding problem. I think the fact that things from the past appear at the right moment to complete a present project contributes to this problem in a way, even if it's also a kind of solution.

    The idea of hastily "finishing tracks", ie. having a finished wav file and then never touching it again, was actually a solution to this issue, to give myself peace of mind that I hadn't left something unfinished. Sure I could come back to any of them but that's not what I want, in this case.

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