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A remix of my track 'Worlds Eye See'.

No disrespect but I hated Saltburn too. It made me feel sorry for the rich kid and that can't be right. A review on IMDB summed it up well for me: "Emerald Fennell is a very very posh person. She's from extraordinary wealth. To take nothing away from her achievements as a filmmaker (Promising Young Woman was a terrific, difficult watch and rightly lauded) - but going in knowing that and then coming out the other side of this morally disturbing parable, it's a troubling setting and one that irks me. The two most obvious antagonists are the type of people you'd typically be rooting for in a film about rich vs poor, and the fact it's turned on its head doesn't feel like an innovative step - it feels like the exact opposite. It feels like someone from enormous privilege trying to redress the balance, almost like a propaganda piece. It's beautifully shot. It's really well acted. It's a solidly entertaining (if broadly unoriginal) little film, but as someone NOT from the world of Saltburn - it left a sour taste." I'm not normally too keen on old black and white films but two very entertaining films I saw recently, both directed by Vittorio De Sica were 'Miracle in Milan' and 'The Roof'. The new Nicholas Cage film, Dream Scenario is good but not an easy watch. Saw a bunch of Shaw Brothers kung fu films recently - been a fan for years but they recently appeared on Mubi, so I binged on 36th Chamber of Shaolin, Shaolin Challenges Ninja, King Boxer, Dirty Ho, Five Deadly Venoms, One Armed Swordsman, Crippled Avengers, and more. The Holdovers was great.

A cosmic message beamed into my brain by aliens and recorded for your displeasure!

Probably the closest I got to Autechre making me cry, not exactly heart wrenching but beautiful and melancholy.

This made me cry but I wasn't sad ?:

Thanks, kind of you to say! I make all my music in Ableton Live with a few plugins, although recently I’m trying to make more use of what’s already built into Live, as too many plugins can become overwhelming and since discovering I can make almost any sound in Live there’s increasingly less need for me to use third-party software except for mastering. The only hardware I have is an Ableton Push 2 controller and a Behringer TD-3 that’s sitting unused in its box. Hardware is for people with more money than me but I live in hope and keep buying the lottery tickets! ? I make most of my drums with Ableton’s Drum Rack, dragging individual hits into that, then drawing beats into the grid in a clip, or with Ableton’s Drum Synth, creating each kick, snare, hi-hat, etc. from scratch, then drawing those in as notes in a clip, then creating variations on that clip, then sometimes resampling them as audio loops and chopping up the loops, edding effects, etc. I treat my individual drum hits for variation/uniqueness by transposing/pitching/filtering/reversing or adding subtle noise/reverb, etc. I have used a few sampled loops in the past but prefer to make all beats from scratch. I go with whatever feels right or interesting in terms of rhythm, sometimes having loops or clips running simultaneously that have different timings, so they drift in and out of time. I like jazz drummers like Steve Gadd and was very influenced by Stasis (Steve Pickton) when I first started making music, so I guess my drums can sound busy at times because I like complexity and variation, which doesn’t always work for me, because I’m not that skilled. I like your music too. I’ve only really listened to ‘Onto’ properly and it’s great, positive, uplifting and danceable. Both tracks on 'from ambient to machines' are nice too, quite an emotional feel and I like the beats. Will listen more when I have time. Keep doing it!

This is cool, I especially like 3:42 but the ambient stuff is nice too, atmospheric, dreamy, deep and layered. Really like the vocal on Conectoma too.

Thank you, you never came across nagatively at all and I appreciate criticism from people who are not close friends, otherwise I'd just be living in a bubble, so it's cool. I defintely take on board what you said about keeping things interesting within the duration and sometimes shorter is better. I used to make tracks about 6 or 7 minutes long but over the years I've tried to keep them under 5 minutes. I reckon there is quite a skill in maintaining interest for longer than that. You're right, sometimes you have to be in a certain mood for certain music and some things are not so obvious at first. Pop music is often catchy on first listens but often doesn't endure repeated listens. Thanks again for the kind comments. ?

Thanks for taking time to explain that, much appreciated! The ABABACAB concept makes sense and is useful. I'm also of the opinion that there are no hard rules except maybe when making pop or rock music. I like the idea of music that may at first not be obviously good but improves over time after repeated listens - it requires learning. I'm not suggesting my music is that at all - it's a long way off, but I guess sometimes I'm aiming for something like that, where the chords/notes may sound difficult or discordant initially but eventually get into one's head, or maybe just my head and nobody else's and therefore is just crap. ?. I was amused when you said there are not enough ideas in Metatron to keep it going for 4 minutes but appreciate what you mean and think I agree. It seems attention spans are dwindling over time and I try to make my tracks shorter and shorter, but then Autechre's remix of St Etienne's 'Like a Motorway' goes on for over 8 minutes, hardly ever changes much in terms of melody or rhythm, yet for me is completely captivating and sublime from start to end. Like you say, I guess much of that is about loudness and textural changes, then the way the beat changes 7 minutes in - subtle charms! That Telefon Tel Aviv album is a real classic and I was very fortunate to get it on vinyl when it came out because it's worth a small fortune now - never leaving my collection! I still have not had time to sit down and properly listen to your music but I will.

Thanks, kind of you to respond in such detail. I admit I'm no musician and can't read music, so mostly draw the notes in rather than play on a keyboard. Will bear in mind what you said. I briefly checked your bandcamp page, pretty good what I heard, will listen more later.

A slowed down version of Metatron:

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum and joined partly because I don't think music is being heard by anyone other than my mates, who say it's good but they probably would, so any constructive criticism would be appreciated. I'm also interested to see what other people are producing here. I've been a huge fan of The Black Dog, Autechre, BOC, Aphex, etc. since they started making music, so that's where a lot of my influences come from. I like making psychedelic music with melody and atmosphere. I try making more textural, darker stuff sometimes but can't seem to help forcing a melody in. These are my latest two tracks that will be part of a three track EP. They were mostly built with sounds made from scratch in Ableton Wavetable. I'm still not great at mastering so some of my older tracks need some work in that respect. Thanks for looking/listening.

I like Disencumber, pretty cool track with great sounds. The ambient one is nice too. Good work!

This is interesting, I quite like it. Some unusual changes, interesting rhythms, cool sounds, some reminding me of a video game. I like the acid sounds and the swelling bass noise. Keep at it!

hirajoshi acid experimentens1 is a lovely track, beautiful, positive vibes. I like polyend breaks+jx3p/101 too, reminds me of Aphex slightly.