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    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    Lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor#U.S._Ambassador_to_Germany_nomination

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    He has asserted that Muslim immigrants (referred to as "Muslim invaders") come to Europe "with the goal of eventually turning Europe into an Islamic state".[19] Macgregor has argued that the German concept of Vergangenheitsbewältigung, used to cope with Germany's Nazi past and its atrocities during World War II, is a "sick mentality."[19] Macgregor has also stated that martial law should be instituted on the U.S.-Mexico border and argued for the extrajudicial execution of those who cross the border at unofficial ports of entry.[19] Macgregor has also made statements in support of Israel having defensible borders, the annexation of the Golan Heights, and the decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.[20] In a column in The Washington Post he was described as "a racist crackpot who is pro-Russia, anti-Merkel, anti-Muslim and anti-Mexican."[21]

    IN the video posted, he starts off by saying the war is decided, except it's not because Putin ordered his troops not commit war crimes, and if only they could commit war crimes, this would be finished faster.

    Cryptocurrency as the next significant stage for computing technology, not just an investment

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    1 hour ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

    i understand you guys hate bitcoin but these types of responses are really boring.  of course we know who satoshi is.  he has known forum handles

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

    this is 101 tier stuff.  imagine opposing bitcoin not knowing this kinda thing

    Oh so Satoshi is Satoshi. Got it.

    Btw - humorous ambivalence is probably a more accurate description of my feelings toward Bitcoin.

    UEFA Champions League, Europa League & Conference League

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    18 minutes ago, Shimon_Shimon said:

    Maguire is useless, terrible signing. He'll go down as one of UTD's dumbest purchases, and they've had quite a few...

    They have plenty of donkeys on the bench getting a handsome wage, Phil Jones is another mook. 

    Maguire is in a rough patch no doubt, but he was getting exposed by our midfield plenty last season and not fucking up as much. He's still our best ball-playing CB, the problem is that Rangnick wants to play a higher line, which does not suit Maguire at all.

     

    Not quite sure why we're throwing Italian euphemisms at Jonesy, but if it weren't for injuries, he could have been a very reliable squad player at the very least, which every team needs.

    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    13 hours ago, nikisoko said:

    i’d just be weary of this kind of stuff since during the Mueller investigation there weee are kinda of people on twitter claiming to have credible inside information that would somehow predict the future. it was all either complete bs or flat out wrong. false hope is a tempting thing in situations like this.

    To be fair to this guy - at least he is suggesting the letters get checked for accuracy:

    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1503097725918728194?s=20&t=mDYyyy3z0wOubzT-eP0_uQ

     

    How does the World view America these days?

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    On 3/11/2022 at 4:53 PM, Nebraska said:
    On 3/11/2022 at 4:09 PM, cern said:

    2020 - Pandemic

    2022 - War

    2023 - Economic crisis? 

     

    On 3/11/2022 at 4:42 PM, ignatius said:

    2028 - major ecological crisis

     

    On 3/11/2022 at 4:49 PM, thefxbip said:

    20?? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

     

     

     

    Better still. 

    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    4 hours ago, J3FF3R00 said:

    I would really hope that the people in other countries around the wouldn’t sit around pointing fingers at us saying “but there are far right extremists in america”

    There would be, but probably not as many as inside the US....

    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    5 hours ago, scumtron said:

    Perhaps the mods could give our troll-factory shitposter some kind of «time out»?

    Jesus, we're not Russians here. ? Dude has a right to speak (with some constraints as per the rules, which everyone has read in triplicate)

    Spoiler

     

    2 hours ago, zazen said:

    When it comes to the endgame of this conflict they might be an important factor. e.g. If Zelenksy gets a peace deal but the far-right militias dont like it, they may turn on Zelensky.

    They're 2-3% of the total armed forces, and the same percentage for the general population (going by last election results). Not sure they're ready for an armed takeover.

    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    Max Blumenthal who reports for RT and Sputnik with a pro-Russian take? :surprised pikachu face:

    that other guy retweets Russian officials and a quick Google of Dean O Brien Ukraine shows he may not me the most trustworthy source…

    Anyways, since you hate nazis, here are some more for you to hate on

     

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    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/03/02/the-controversy-over-chrystia-freeland-and-the-ukrainian-scarf-explained.html

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    Although historians debate the UPA’s precise role in the Second World War — it fought at different times against the Soviets and the Germans — they have long accused the organization of collaborating with the Nazis during the Holocaust, and massacring tens of thousands of ethnic Poles.

    However, the same colours have for centuries been linked to Ukrainian history and culture, explains Jars Balan, director of the Kule Ukrainian Canadian Studies Centre at the University of Alberta. The UPA did fly a red and black flag, he said, but the same colour scheme appears in literature and art from the 12th century on.

    “Taras Hryhorovych Shevchenko, the most important poet to rise from Ukraine in the 19th century, incorporated those colours in a number of his works. They are the colours that are used in the embroidery of the Poltava region of Ukraine, which is the wellspring … of the Ukrainian literary language,” he said. “The colours were adopted in 1941, and during the Second World War by the UPA, because they were drawing on this tradition and Ukraine’s struggle for independence.”

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

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    The OUN's stated immediate goal at the time of the German invasion of the Soviet Union was the re-establishment of a united, independent, German-aligned, mono-ethnic national state on the territory that would include parts of modern-day Russia, Poland, and Belarus.[6] Violence was accepted as a political tool against foreign as well as domestic enemies of their cause, which was to be achieved by a national revolution led by a dictatorship that would drive out what they considered to be occupying powers and set up a government representing all regions and social groups.[10] The organization began as a resistance group and developed into a guerrilla army.[11] In 1943, the UPA was controlled by the OUN(B),[citation needed] and included people of various political and ideological convictions. Furthermore, it needed the support of the broad masses against both the Germans and the Soviets. Much of the nationalist ideology, including the concept of dictatorship, did not appeal to former Soviet citizens who had experienced the dictatorship of the Communist Party. Hence, a revision of the OUN(B) ideology and political program was imperative. At its Third Extraordinary Grand Assembly on 21–25 August 1943, the OUN(B) condemned "internationalist and fascist national-socialist programs and political concepts" as well as "Russian-Bolshevik communism", and proposed a "system of free peoples and independent states [as] the single best solution to the problem of world order." Its social program did not differ essentially from earlier ones but emphasized a wide range of social services, worker participation in management, a mixed economy, choice of profession and workplace, and free trade unions. The OUN(B) affirmed that it was fighting for freedom of the press, speech, and thought. Its earlier nationality policy was encapsulated in the slogan "Ukraine for Ukrainians"; in 1943, the most extreme elements of it were officially abandoned, although the actual policy of the OUN(B) had not changed significantly, and the UPA undertook ethnic cleansing in 1943.[6]

    During its existence, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought against the Poles and the Soviets as their primary opponents, although the organization also fought against the Germans starting from February 1943, with many cases of collaboration with the German forces in the fight against Soviet partisan units. From late spring 1944, the UPA and Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists-B (OUN-B)—faced with Soviet advances—also cooperated with German forces against the Soviets and Poles in the hope of creating an independent Ukrainian state.[12] The OUN also played a substantial role in the ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volhynia and East Galicia,[13][14][15][16][17] and later preventing the deportation of the Ukrainians in southeastern Poland.[18]

    Not so black and white as you would have it.

    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    10 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

    i have no idea, i never met any of them. canada definitely has nazis though.

    yikes:

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/03/free-m03.html

    That article is hilarious for so many reasons:

    "Slava Ukraine" (Glory to Ukraine) by itself is not a fascist slogan - it needs to be in conjunction with another phrase meaning "Glory to the Heroes". That's my understanding based on a little bit of research and asking some Ukraine friends.

    It goes on to say: " As Deputy Prime Minister, she [Minister Freeland, in her role as Minister of Finance is what they actually mean]  has unveiled many of the brutal sanctions adopted by Ottawa against Russia, which amount to economic warfare and will have their most devastating impact on the lives of ordinary people." Most of Canada's economic sanctions are against Russian oligarchs and their assets in Canada, as well as entities they control.

    Additionally, Canada-Russia bilateral trade is so little, any other economic sanctions will have no impact - they are a show of political solidarity in the face of an act of war conducted by Russia.

    The article also says: "...the Canadian ruling class is clearly attempting to exploit this outrage, together with widespread political confusion about the background to the conflict, to marshal support for NATO’s proxy war against Russia." NATO was not engaged in a proxy war with Russia. NATO expansionism has already been addressed in this thread - but I will add a PDF that explains this in IR terms.

    It next goes on to say: "Ukrainian nationalism firmly established itself in Canada after 1945, when the Liberal government of Prime Minister Louis St. Laurent undertook to admit tens of thousands of Nazi collaborators from Ukraine and other Eastern European countries. The established communities of Eastern European immigrants in Canada prior to the war had been politically dominated by socialists and the left. St. Laurent was determined to provide them with new leadership."

    Which explains of course why every single National Socialist or Nazi party in Canadian history has been led by former Germans, and not a single member of a Nazi-related party has ever been elected to Canadian parliament. Canada additionally has a strong history of arresting and jailing Nazis and fascists or deporting them. (PDF link)

    It then concludes its' fantasy by saying "Far-right Ukrainian nationalists are now at the very center of Canada’s foreign policy." Which is so far-fetched I can't even begin to address the inane nature of the statement.

    10 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

    i haven't seen a single characterization like that in this thread or anything negative said towards any civilians.  anyway ukraine has a severe nazi problem

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

    in fact so many nazis in its military that western media keeps accidentally getting Nazis stuck in their photo ops

    https://imgur.com/a/6RbDgjc

     

    As has been pointed out several times, the Azov battalion makes up approximately 2~3%  of Ukranian forces fighting against the Russian invaders.

    That is a gallery with 3 photos in it. Out of the thousands of photos coming out of the invasion, you found 3. Well done.

    9 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

    azov is only one neo-nazi group.  there are more

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector

    and since zelensky started handing out weapons to anyone who asked for them you can bet every single fascist is armed, assuming they weren't to begin with

    For clarity - Right Sector is a political party, not an armed group. In 2015, they had 2 nominal representatives (members who ran as independents and not on the party platform) in the Ukrainian parliament. In the 2019 election, they won none. In fact - "In the 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election, Right Sector took part on a united radical right nationwide-party list with the Governmental Initiative of Yarosh, National Corps, and Svoboda. This combination won 2.15% of the nationwide election list vote and no seats.[38] This election the party did not win a single-mandate constituency parliamentary seat."

    So they ran a united radical right nationwide party - and won 2.15% (in keeping with the proportion of the Azov battalion to total fighting forces), with NO parliamentary seats - or in other words, support declined.

    Are Nazis bad? Of course they are. Does the Ukraine have a SEVERE Nazi problem? Not really. They exist and are bad. Why you're trying to obfuscate the issue here with this whole "Nazis are taking over" rhetoric is completely unclear, except for it provides you a vehicle to mouth off at NATO and through that, "the evil imperialists".

    I fucking promised myself I wouldn't engage with you, but goddamn, this is almost as dumb as your previous statements under your incarnation as a red-pill MRA warrior. I won't repeat them, because as you have rightfully pointed out, you made them, learned, and changed your perspective. Much respect for that. However, it's also worse, because you're insulting the hell out of Ukraine and Russian citizens (the ones who keep getting arrested for protesting the war) who are suffering for Putin's hubris.

    IR Theory Guide to Ukraine's War - (Walt - FP 2022).pdf

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    Russia is now bombing Ukraine

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    1 hour ago, marf said:

    I just can't shake the feeling that there is so much attention and support for Ukraine because it's a full of white people

    Not wrong - the Conservative party here suddenly voted along with other parties to remove barriers for Ukrainian refugees:

    https://www.lakelandtoday.ca/beyond-local/canadas-ukraine-refugee-plan-praised-but-questions-raised-about-other-war-escapees-5126789

    Compare that to the Conservative response to the Syrian crisis (they had a majority government at the time): https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-conservatives-message-syrian-refugees-1.3226039

    And more recently, our approach to the Afghan refugees after the Taliban took over (better than Syria, but still not great): https://finance.yahoo.com/news/canada-continues-welcome-more-afghan-224200987.html

    To add on that, because our Immigration branch is so short staffed (like virtually all federal government departments here), the delays are going to be huge: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/petawawa-ont-group-worried-syrian-refugee-family-will-take-back-seat-to-ukrainian-immigration-1.5813060

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