joseph
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Cloudline is the best track on Exai.
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Holy shit this album is incredible, thanks for posting that!
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But it's different from past EP's like say Cichli suite, which use the Chastic "sound-set". There it was more of sample-sharing, whereas with L-event it's like every micro-tone is dissected and reassembled.
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The tracks on L-Event are cousins with all the Exai tracks! There's several dozen moments where they're clearly drawing from similar sounds or ideas. It's pretty fascinating, almost every track on Exai is covered.
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I also agree with the comment that it's really interesting how they choose what goes on an album (from what they have floating around at any given time). I've only listened once but I liked it more than at least 50-75% of Exai
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Exactly This EP is like: flep vekos bladelores tuinorizn prac-f runrepik nodezsh recks on YJY uX thrown in a blender
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r ess = Rob and Sean
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Nope. Not only does it sound a lot busier, but it's just more funky, groovin' and melodic than Confield. A lot of the time, the sound of a new frontier isn't as exciting as its later incarnations. Or some shit. Well you're just factually wrong. Confield is way more dense and intricate on average than Exai. Even superficially complicated tracks like Fleure are way easier to unravel than, say, Lentic or Pen Expers. Draft beats them both by a mile. Hey I'm with you on the whole 'music can be talked about in an objective sense' deal but If you thought FLuere was easier to unravel than Pen Expers then it took you way too long to understand Pen Expers. I'm still surprised every time I listen to Pen Expers! I think the most interesting thing about FLeure is how it sounds like a sped-up version of prac-f. But in terms of what's "going on", I don't think it approaches most of Confield.
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I do see what you're saying though - in certain respects Quaristice is more rhythmically restrained than say Draft or Untilted, and Exai is also restrained in this respect. But Quaristice explored in so many other ways. Exai feels more cinematic and "album" oriented.
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Exactly this. Exai sounds like Sean and Rob at the top of their game, this gives it a very brash, confident sound. But it also sounds less explorative and weird. I place Quaristice in this same box. I totally disagree here. Quaristice is exploratory almost to a fault ( - at least some people seem to think it's a fault. I love it). I think there's no comparing Exai to Quaristice in that department. Yes, it's largely "jams" but those are the best "jams" I've heard in my entire life. Every track is it's own little isolated universe. Somehow, though, they flow together really well and even paint a coherent picture (Versions and Quadrange help with seeing this). I love Quaristice so damn much. It's better than all of Oversteps, Exai, L-Event, MoT, and maybe even Untilted.
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It's possible that the "tac lacora" leak was made by autechre, but was just some castaway with lots of exai sounds, which sean then posted on 4chan to troll us.
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Beginning is in 3, end is in 4.
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Yeah. I thought that it is something like advanced fm techniques. Modulating carrier by audio in smart way. It's very distinctive and that's why I think it's them.
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Yeah the ending is great.
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Even the far-off background sounds are a lot like runrepik. I'm actually liking it a lot, except the weird blatant vocals.
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I think it's ae. If it's not someone did a brilliant job. At least it's very hard to tell. It easily sounds like an alt-exai track.
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No, I'm being sarcastic in that last post. Or something like sarcasm, I don't know :)
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Don't worry -- I think WATMM still accepts you even though you partially caused all them stupid comments. At least you clarified that you too believe that how densely layered a track is is just "subjective" and "hard to define".
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See what I mean? This entirely typical non-response is a good example of why I can't be bothered to read WATMM regularly anymore. Aren't you all sorry?
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Hopefully you know that none of those constitutes proof. If I want to, I can just say that those reflect the subjective experiences of the "observers". Similarly, when confronted with the changing-every-second sonic hurricane that is Bine, versus a track like JTVC that just repeats itself over and over, it's consistent to always say "the intricacy of these tracks is just my personal experience. There are not right or wrong answers". But you'll look extremely silly in the process - just about as silly, I'd say, as a flat-earther.
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How could I prove that? I can't even prove the earth is round. You can measure it in a lot of ways, but the best way is just by listening carefully to the layers, sampling, frequency of rhythmic and sonic shifts, degree of fucked-up-ness generally. Have you listened to Confield carefully? Have you listened to Exai carefully?
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How I'm gauging intricacy is hard to convey, but it doesn't mean it's just a matter of opinion. Just like beauty is not a matter of opinion. The three videos I posted form an ascending chain of rhythmic intricacy, this is hopefully not too controversial. They also form an increasing sequence of compositional intricacy: Each one requires considerably more information to specify how to execute a performance. They also form an increasing sequence of sonic intricacy in the following sense: The first one is just a series of tones, the second one may use a lot of instruments, but the instruments themselves are not very important. There is no official instrument list for In C! I think there are conventions and standards of harmoniousness, though. The third one is composed in the typical, classical sense, with a list of players and instruments who have crucial roles that cannot be changed without destroying the idea. (And yes, you are incorrect to assume that I only value intricacy/whatnot. Personally I haven't even decided which of Confield and Exai I love more. It's close.)
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Where did I say that? I haven't said whether or not I actually think Confield is better than Exai.
