Guest AlexPallas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 discogs.com lists the tracklisting as: A1 Untitled (9:20) A2 Untitled (5:57) A3 Untitled (0:32) A4 Untitled (4:25) A5 Untitled (6:43)* B1 Untitled (6:10) B2 Untitled (4:47) B3 Untitled (6:46) B4 Cuckoo (5:59)** wikipedia lists the tracklisting as: A1. [untitled] (9:20) A2. [untitled] (5:57) A3. [untitled] (0:32) A4. [untitled] (4:25) B1. [untitled] (6:43)* B2. [untitled] (6:16) B3. [untitled] (4:53) B4. [untitled] (6:52) *note these tracks are the same even though they are on different faces of the record **Cuckoo is mentioned on only one of these tracklistings can somebody help me cipher this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Yeah, i'd like to know too. But I don't know why Rich would release the same track as on AB4 on another release (the point?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Actully, it's likely the different test pressings have different tracks on them, he could have changed his mind while doing the test pressings (like he did about the whole album) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexPallas Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 i would like to see an interview that he officially commented on it. it might be in one of the interviews i posted in the download section. if somebody can pull it up i'd like to see the quote. btw: wouldn't an Analogue Bubblebath box set-thing be cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 All pressings of AB5 have the last track (which is UNTITLED, both on AB4 and AB5 - the name 'Cuckoo' is not official as it has never appeared on any release of AB4, same goes for the other tracks on AB4). And it's a 5/4 split if I remember correctly on the vinyl (5 on side A, 4 on side B). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 A old friend of mine recorded Analogue Bubblebath 5 for me off the internet......this was like 97 or 98. Anyway my version of Analogue Bubblebath 5 has the "Cuckoo" track on it.......the track with what sounds like birds chirping, off of Analogue Bubblebath 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 i've got 2 versions in flac the test pressing : A1. untitled (9:20) A2. untitled (5:57) A3. untitled (0:32) A4. untitled (4:25) B1. untitled (6:43) B2. untitled (6:16) B3. untitled (4:53) B4. untitled (6:46) & the 2005 version (sended 2 people, Rephlex mailed out a second batch in June 2005 to those who had not received their order) : A1. Untitled (9:20) A2. Untitled (5:57) A3. Untitled (0:32) A4. Untitled (4:25) A5. Untitled (6:43) B1. Untitled (6:11) B2. Untitled (4:50) B3. Untitled (6:46) B4. Untitled [Cuckoo] (5:59) so... the 8 firsts r the same... after don't know why Cuckoo is given on AB5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 i've got 2 versions in flac the test pressing : A1. untitled (9:20) A2. untitled (5:57) A3. untitled (0:32) A4. untitled (4:25) B1. untitled (6:43) B2. untitled (6:16) B3. untitled (4:53) B4. untitled (6:46) & the 2005 version (sended 2 people, Rephlex mailed out a second batch in June 2005 to those who had not received their order) : A1. Untitled (9:20) A2. Untitled (5:57) A3. Untitled (0:32) A4. Untitled (4:25) A5. Untitled (6:43) B1. Untitled (6:11) B2. Untitled (4:50) B3. Untitled (6:46) B4. Untitled [Cuckoo] (5:59) so... the 8 firsts r the same... after don't know why Cuckoo is given on AB5... Inaccurate - there was no '2005 version' - those were the original 1995 test pressings that were given out to a few people who got their Analord binder orders screwed up... ALL AB5 test pressings include the untitled track off of AB4 (commonly known as 'cuckoo'). Any recordings you find online that do NOT contain this track is most likely the result of the encoder not including it since it is already available on a commonly-available release. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 ok thanks 4 ur in4mation! ;-) sorry 4 my error... but if i wrote '2005 version', it's i believed that Rephlex mailed out another version of it... ok excuse me! :embrassed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexPallas Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 yeah, even though cuckoo seems to have been on aB5, when people put it on p2p, they took cuckoo from AB4 CD, you can tell from the difference in sound, but it makes me wonder if the two versions have any deviation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 yeah! cuckoo of AB5 doesn't sound like the track with the same title of AB4... that's why my confusion & would understand why the same title but not the same track (sound totally different)... now i understand better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 yeah! cuckoo of AB5 doesn't sound like the track with the same title of AB4... that's why my confusion & would understand why the same title but not the same track (sound totally different)... now i understand better... My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexPallas Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eichel Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 hes got the 12". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexPallas Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 so we still dont know if the AB5 and AB4 versions deviate. its rather odd to release a track twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. All of what I just typed plus maybe a couple of other tracks, that I can't remember right now + the Cuckoo track are on my copy of AB5.......I think the AB4 Cuckoo and the AB5 Cuckoo are the same unless one of them is shorter than the other, which I have'nt checked out but yeah both Cuckoos sound the same. Maybe AFX was gonna release Cuckoo on AB4 and AB5 as a novelty idea....who knows?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. All of what I just typed plus maybe a couple of other tracks, that I can't remember right now + the Cuckoo track are on my copy of AB5.......I think the AB4 Cuckoo and the AB5 Cuckoo are the same unless one of them is shorter than the other, which I have'nt checked out but yeah both Cuckoos sound the same. Maybe AFX was gonna release Cuckoo on AB4 and AB5 as a novelty idea....who knows?? made in 97 or 98... cuckoo made in 1994 (AB4) & in 1995 (AB5, if it's the same track...) but r u sure? bcause i've one from someone who has this vinyl & had convert this AB5 4 me in flac files... and i've got the original AB4 (in 2 copies in CD)... :getlost: strange... :alien: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xceque Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 to hopefully clear up some questions: the discogs entry for AB5 is correct. any 4 or 5 second variations in track lengths for different rips is due to the rips including different amounts of silence before start and after the end of each track, and playing speeds varying slightly around the proper rpm. the version of the final track (the untitled track commonly known as 'cuckoo') is exactly the same as the version on AB4. think of AB4 as the single from the album AB5 if it offends you to have the same track released twice. if you have a version that has a different final track it's probably either a rip without the track at all, or with the wrong track. i have a very good clean rip, on a top-notch deck, with all tracks ripped (ie not missing out the last one), provided by another member of his here board (and since he's not chimed in with info I though I would). the record was one of the unplayed analord-fuckup-compensation send-outs. edit: also, the 12"s sent out as compensation are undoubtedly the same pressing batch as the handfull that have been floating around since the mid 90s. there's obviously a pile in the rephlex vault somewhere that have been gathering dust since the first (and only) test pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eichel Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 if anyone who has it wants some money - im very interested in purchasing a physical copy of the ab5!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 so we still dont know if the AB5 and AB4 versions deviate. its rather odd to release a track twice... It wasn't released twice... AB5 was never commercially released - it only exists as a test pressing. to hopefully clear up some questions: the discogs entry for AB5 is correct. any 4 or 5 second variations in track lengths for different rips is due to the rips including different amounts of silence before start and after the end of each track, and playing speeds varying slightly around the proper rpm. the version of the final track (the untitled track commonly known as 'cuckoo') is exactly the same as the version on AB4. think of AB4 as the single from the album AB5 if it offends you to have the same track released twice. if you have a version that has a different final track it's probably either a rip without the track at all, or with the wrong track. i have a very good clean rip, on a top-notch deck, with all tracks ripped (ie not missing out the last one), provided by another member of his here board (and since he's not chimed in with info I though I would). the record was one of the unplayed analord-fuckup-compensation send-outs. edit: also, the 12"s sent out as compensation are undoubtedly the same pressing batch as the handfull that have been floating around since the mid 90s. there's obviously a pile in the rephlex vault somewhere that have been gathering dust since the first (and only) test pressing. Thank you - finally somebody to confirm what I've been saying all along. I own an AB5 (as well as recordings of other people's AB5's for comparison) and they all have the 9th untitled track on them, and that track is the same as the track that appears on AB4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josso Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yeah, i'd like to know too. But I don't know why Rich would release the same track as on AB4 on another release (the point?) Hmmm yeah but what is the point in anything random RDJ decides to do, I mean be realistic... sometimes he just does stuff for the hell of it or to wind up his fans (most likely). I'd love to have a copy of this, mp3 or the actual record. Maybe one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 right! i've listened yesterday the wrong cd (burned) yeah just 45 sec. as difference & just the intro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest transfer Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. My version of AB5 has the exact same version of "cuckoo" that's on AB4. are we talking about you're 12", or your downloaded files no it's a recording off the internet from like 97 or 98........I'm sure its AFX. er........the recording that I have was made in 97 or 98 can't remember........I've been into AFX since 1993 so I have a good idea what he sounds like......this recording is AFX music.......its not drill n' bass stuff it has an older sound to it with straightforward techno loops and hip hop loops in it with pretty melodies over them. There's also this acidy track with no modulation to it and some quasi- dissonant melodies. All of what I just typed plus maybe a couple of other tracks, that I can't remember right now + the Cuckoo track are on my copy of AB5.......I think the AB4 Cuckoo and the AB5 Cuckoo are the same unless one of them is shorter than the other, which I have'nt checked out but yeah both Cuckoos sound the same. Maybe AFX was gonna release Cuckoo on AB4 and AB5 as a novelty idea....who knows?? made in 97 or 98... cuckoo made in 1994 (AB4) & in 1995 (AB5, if it's the same track...) but r u sure? bcause i've one from someone who has this vinyl & had convert this AB5 4 me in flac files... and i've got the original AB4 (in 2 copies in CD)... :getlost: strange... :alien: No an old friend of mine recorded AB5 off the internet for me in 97 or 98........Cuckoo was released in 94 on the AB4 release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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