Guest ezkerraldean Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 ur fit poc lol x wb x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 just head straight to the TITS thread dude. welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I read the rules and look how I turned out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 hello POC ignore the rule's only loser's read the rule's (and instruction manual's) DRTFM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest plangplang Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 traceroute to forum.watmm.com (69.4.228.24), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 192.89.90.1 (192.89.90.1) 0.649 ms 2.050 ms 0.289 ms 2 217.25.103.9 (217.25.103.9) 1.426 ms 1.190 ms 1.005 ms 3 82.215.195.121 (82.215.195.121) 1.684 ms 1.172 ms 1.070 ms 4 lpr-b1-mpls.kymp.net (80.248.96.46) 3.066 ms 3.098 ms 2.975 ms 5 la-a1-mpls.kymp.net (80.248.96.29) 3.651 ms 6.774 ms 3.388 ms 6 ka-a1-te-3-2.kymp.net (80.248.96.37) 2.926 ms 2.934 ms 2.761 ms 7 62.237.133.81 (62.237.133.81) 6.155 ms 4.892 ms 4.881 ms 8 xe-10-0-0.edge2.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.71.190.13) 180.461 ms 105.424 ms 105.481 ms 9 vlan99.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.254) 105.838 ms 117.305 ms 109.053 ms 10 ae-82-82.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.89) 114.252 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.85) 113.159 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.81) 114.193 ms 11 ae-2.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.132.65) 129.381 ms 127.804 ms 126.859 ms 12 ae-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190) 127.315 ms 126.580 ms 126.455 ms 13 ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.61) 153.923 ms 153.228 ms 162.672 ms 14 ae-2.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.69.132.53) 180.085 ms 177.852 ms 176.803 ms 15 ae-23-52.car3.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.36) 177.204 ms 180.599 ms 177.066 ms 16 te2-1.cer01.sea01.seattle-datacenter.com (4.71.152.138) 178.758 ms 177.314 ms 177.498 ms 17 po01.fcr01.sea01.seattle-datacenter.com (67.228.118.134) 178.286 ms 185.395 ms 177.792 ms 18 ans49.midphase.com (69.4.228.24) 177.597 ms 176.464 ms 177.215 ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 hello POC ignore the rule's only loser's read the rule's (and instruction manual's) woah Ludd, lets not say anything we might regret when we wake in the morning. Lets all just chill for a moment. you go read the rules poc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 i'm sick of the rules fuck the rules and the jazzbands and the fishing cats and rolling lols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 i'm sick of the rules fuck the rules and the jazzbands and the fishing cats and rolling lols i'm glad someone said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest narkeworld Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 i'm sick of the rules fuck the rules and the jazzbands and the fishing cats and rolling lols Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Go team LUDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Feed the memes, I took the memes. They are on my wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capsaicin Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 If need be, I can post the rules into the thread. But it will cost extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 i'm sick of the rules fuck the rules and the jazzbands and the fishing cats and rolling lols what's this 'fishing cat' you speak of. oh and welcome pocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 General As with any community, there are rules which ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible, and that everyone gets along peacefully. These forums are no different. We recognize that not everyone gets along, but we also know that this doesn't mean that the world should stop turning. This page of rules gives you the boundaries to work within. These aren't the default rules that come with the boards software, these are written by the administrators and moderators who deal with people on a daily basis. We would appreciate it if you could read through this page and absorb as much as humanly possible before posting. These rules are also in a constant state of flux. Stay tuned for further episodes. Searching This board has been around for a while. There are literally thousands of topics here. Some topics could have been avoided simply by using the search function on this board. As much as we'd love to see you post questions about 'the kick-ass outside violin solo' or 'old tunes', we recommend that you search first and be informed. General Post Content Most stuff can be posted in the general section of this board. However, if you are a musician/composer with questions, or require a critique, hop on over to the Expert Knob Twiddlers section. Posts will be moved by moderators/administrators if they feel something has been posted in the wrong place, with or sometimes without a link from the original forum. The occasional announcement regarding a new album or an event you'r involved with is alright, but if you make a regular habit of it, then you'll be asked to take your spam elsewhere. Privacy You will not violate anyone's privacy. This includes anything about people on, or off the board. Violating this rule will result in the instant removal of your account, without any prior warning. Posting of personal information (whether publically available or not) is not allowed, as while you might not stalk someone to their place of residence, the weirdo who never posts but is always in threads just might, so keep that in mind. Posting of personal information regarding any artists we cover on WATMM is expressly forbidden, as we're here to admire their work, not hunt them down or invade their privacy. Multiple Accounts No sir, we don't like it. We can detect it. We know who you are. We will remove extra accounts. We occasionally audit the member records as well. Post Pumping Each member account has a post count, this is the number of threads you have contributed to during your existence on this board. We do not give out prizes for high post counts. Cross Posting Cross posting is when you post the same information in more than one forum on this board. Violating this rule will result in a private message and a warning and one of the posts removed. Racism This is a big no-no. Violate this rule and we'll send you a private message, warn and or ban you from this board. Racial discussions tend to start off innocently, but tend to degenerate into the wrong kind of talk. Please be respectful of the fact that many people from many countries and nationalities visit the site. Just because somebody doesn't "act" like a certain ethnic group doesn't mean they are not part of one. Use of ethnic slurs or epiteths are also frowned upon, even when used in a non-confrontational manner. Profanity We couldn't give a flying fucking rats cunt if you use any sort of profanity on this board. It's not the language you use, it's the subject you're talking about that concerns us. However, just like you don't curse like a sailor in front of your mother or in public, those general rules of etiquitte apply here as well. Think of profanity as seasoning - a dash here and there is fine for spicing things up from time to time. Warez (Illegal Software) You cannot advertise, or discuss any type of warez (illegal software) on this board. This includes requests for warez, gamez, appz, cracks or keygens. We tend to frown on links to warez sites as well. Digital Media Files/Links Since this a website about music, it's natural to want to post stuff you find off Soulseek, Kazaa, or the P2P de jour. If it's your own music, fine, go ahead. We even suggest you get a Knob Twiddler account to allow larger uploads and other handy features other board members don't have. However, if the music is not yours, we kindly ask that you respect the artist's wishes and not post entire soundfiles. 30 second to 1 minute clips are fine, and this generally does not apply to bootleg concerts or links to live performances or videos, assuming they are not commercially available or are available online elsewhere. We reserve the right to remove any digital files we feel are a violation of this policy. Links to Bittorrents, YouSendIt, FileShare, etc. are also a violation if linked to copyrighted or commercially available material. Hotlinking We don't like to see links to direct files on other sites, so please, if you must direct your mates to something on the forum, post a link to the forum thread instead. That goes the same for sites that host content. Respect their content and link to the page whenever possible. Porn A lot of users of this board read posts at work. This means that the posting of pornographic material is strictly forbidden. Additionally, posting pornographic material in the forum in the spoiler tags will cause those images to get cached on the user's machine even if he or she doesn't open the spoiler tag - this can end up getting people in trouble at home or work. However, we do allow occasional links offsite, PROVIDING THE LINK IS ACCOMPANIED WITH A "NOT SAFE FOR WORK" WARNING. Failure to observe this rule will result in a private message and a warning. One further thing to note, some websites, such as SomethingAwful.com have a mechanism to stop people from directly linking images from their site. These images clearly violate both the porn and also the gore rule below. Please check this out before linking pictures from elsewhere. Gore (Not Al) The same rule for porn is to be applied to gore. Think before you post. Blind links Blind linking is where you hide the real destination of a link with a different address. For example, linking to goatse.cx. Doing this will result in a private message, a warning and the post being edited to correct the link. Spamming/Advertising We allow some advertising under certain conditions: 1. You are a posting bot from an established label, such as Warp, or Planet-mu 2. You are a well-known regular on this board, who posts often If you advertise on this board by setting up an account with no intention on joining the community (i.e., advertising is your first and only post) then your post will be locked, and you will receive a private message. Flaming Although some posters should see this coming (see flame-baiting), the general rule is not to totally shoot someone down over a post. If the argument gets out of control then the moderators and administrators will step in and provide a more Draconian solution to the argument. Flame baiting Don't do it. You will get warned. See the section on "The warning system" below. Bumping/Resurrecting Dead Threads This is the act of posting in a thread to simply keep the thread at the top of the forum. We don't like it. If you do this often you will get warned. Resurrecting dead/closed threads is also not allowed - if the thread was closed by a Moderator or Admin, there was a reason behind it. DO NOT reopen threads that were closed unless you have permission from a Moderator or Admin first. Failure to do so can result in your thread locking/opening abilities suspended or removed. Banning If you have committed a serious offense, we will ban your account from this board. This means that we will remove your account from the system, record your IP address and stop you from using it again, and we will add your e-mail address to the list of banned addresses. There are only a couple of offenses that will immediately get you banned without warning. Banning is permanent. If you decide to come back under a different account and we find out, don't be surprised if you suddenly can't log in anymore. The Warning System When posting, you will notice a small line underneath your information reading "Warn: (0%)". This is the warning system on this board. It is used by moderators and administrators to keep track of users actions. Everyone starts with 0%. Each warning will step things up 10% at a time. Reaching 100% will result in your account being banned. Please remember that more serious infractions may result in instant banning or suspension. What To I Do If I See Something/Someone That Breaks These Rules? If you see something on this board that is questionable or violates the above rules, you can report it using the "Report" button on each post. This will send an alert to all moderators and administrators about where the violation occurs. Please include a reason for why you're reporting it and if it's a specific member's post, please mention who it is and/or the post # (located in the upper right corner of each post). We will try to ensure your anonymity, as nobody likes a snitch, but we appreciate it as we can't be everywhere at once. Avatars And Signatures Avatars are the little pictures underneath your member name in each post. There is a fixed size for each avatar. The content of these avatars must comply with the rules above, including the porn and gore rules. Same with the signatures. The maximum size (in pixels) for avatars is 120x120. Anything smaller or irregularly shaped should have the pixel values manually input on the page in your Control Panel. Signature Size You can edit your own signature for your posts through the "My Controls" section of the board. The signature should be no taller than 200 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. Taller or wider signatures will result in a private message requesting it to be cut down. Failure to comply will result in your signature being edited or removed outright. Member Status Underneath your member name on each post is a brief description of who you are. Member Powers * You can post in both the General Forum and the Expert Knob Twiddlers Forum and their various subforums. * You can search all forums * You can private message other members of the forum * You can report posts to moderators and administrators * You can reply to other posts * You can edit your post within a certain time after you posted it * You can view other members public profiles Moderator Powers * The ability to close threads * The ability to warn members * The ability to manage parts of the forums * The ability to track members IP addresses * The ability to edit certain members information Administrator Powers Anything and everything. We also reserve the right to bend or modify the rules on a case-by-case basis. You want a democracy, go run for President against Bush. Kicking Yo' Ass This comes in different forms, from warning you in a thread, posting you a private message, increasing your warning percentage, placing your account on hold or banning your account outright. Sound In Avatars This board allows you to use Flash animations within your avatars. Flash also allows the avatars to make sounds. This sounds nice, but it's damn annoying every time a page loads. Don't do it, otherwise someone will edit your account. Posting Polls Moderators and members of the subscription-only Knob Twiddlers group can post polls. If this privilege is abused, it will be revoked, possibly on a permanent basis. For information on how to join the Knob Twiddlers group and the other benefits that come with it, see this thread. IP Addresses/Email Addresses We track IP addresses. We know where you are. Spoofing of IPs, if found, will result in account removal. Don't bother using a fake email address for registering - you won't get the validation email. Also, changing your email to a non-existant one after successfully registering only prevents people from contacting you - you can choose to have your email private via your Control Panel if you are concerned about your privacy. 'Hello' Posts It seems to be natural to post something to announce who you are when you join the board. This is fine. However, you should be treating your audience with a little respect first. Making a first post like "hello you fuckers" will be treated as flame-baiting (see above). Don't be surprised if you get repeated "read the rules" comments. Just our way of saying "hi". Acting Like An AOL Child (aka AOLHole™) Not really a rule, but it'll make a dent in your respect-o-meter if you start posting "asl?"... You don't need to use "1337 5P34K" (elite speak, or "hacker speak") excessively. A few 'OMG" and "WTF" and "LOLs" are OK, but like salt or pepper, too much just ruins the whole experience. Suggestions 1. Use common sense. Anything that you say or do carries consequences with it. If you find yourself questioning the nature of what you’re going to post, then it’s probably not safe to post it. Save yourself trouble and ourselves time, think before you post. 2. Always be civil and courteous. This forum is visited by people from all over the world of different ages, genders, and races. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, see Flaming, Privacy, and Racism. 3. Make sure that your message topics fit the topic description of the forum that you are posting in. This is for your own benefit. 4. Use the search function before posting. 5. Make sure that you have followed #1 and #4 before posting 6. Read the sticky threads at the top of each forum - they are there for a reason, and generally contain information relevant to the forum that they are in. 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Omissions If you feel that this list of rules is missing something. Let us know. The "Mad-Dogs And Englishmen" Clause Glad you've read this far. As a knock-over from the previous rules of this board, there is a way to 'stop the world, I want to get off', or in other words, a way to get your account suspended if you feel you've had enough. We do not remove accounts, as your posts then have a non-registered user attached to them, and it gives people the potential to come back and impersonate someone who's left. Ask a moderator/administrator if you'd like to leave. We can also suspend your account for a period of time if you wish to take a break but not lose your hard-earned post count, member number, etc. I did it for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 General As with any community, there are rules which ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible, and that everyone gets along peacefully. These forums are no different. We recognize that not everyone gets along, but we also know that this doesn't mean that the world should stop turning. This page of rules gives you the boundaries to work within. These aren't the default rules that come with the boards software, these are written by the administrators and moderators who deal with people on a daily basis. We would appreciate it if you could read through this page and absorb as much as humanly possible before posting. These rules are also in a constant state of flux. Stay tuned for further episodes. Searching This board has been around for a while. There are literally thousands of topics here. Some topics could have been avoided simply by using the search function on this board. As much as we'd love to see you post questions about 'the kick-ass outside violin solo' or 'old tunes', we recommend that you search first and be informed. General Post Content Most stuff can be posted in the general section of this board. However, if you are a musician/composer with questions, or require a critique, hop on over to the Expert Knob Twiddlers section. Posts will be moved by moderators/administrators if they feel something has been posted in the wrong place, with or sometimes without a link from the original forum. The occasional announcement regarding a new album or an event you'r involved with is alright, but if you make a regular habit of it, then you'll be asked to take your spam elsewhere. Privacy You will not violate anyone's privacy. This includes anything about people on, or off the board. Violating this rule will result in the instant removal of your account, without any prior warning. Posting of personal information (whether publically available or not) is not allowed, as while you might not stalk someone to their place of residence, the weirdo who never posts but is always in threads just might, so keep that in mind. Posting of personal information regarding any artists we cover on WATMM is expressly forbidden, as we're here to admire their work, not hunt them down or invade their privacy. Multiple Accounts No sir, we don't like it. We can detect it. We know who you are. We will remove extra accounts. We occasionally audit the member records as well. Post Pumping Each member account has a post count, this is the number of threads you have contributed to during your existence on this board. We do not give out prizes for high post counts. Cross Posting Cross posting is when you post the same information in more than one forum on this board. Violating this rule will result in a private message and a warning and one of the posts removed. Racism This is a big no-no. Violate this rule and we'll send you a private message, warn and or ban you from this board. Racial discussions tend to start off innocently, but tend to degenerate into the wrong kind of talk. Please be respectful of the fact that many people from many countries and nationalities visit the site. Just because somebody doesn't "act" like a certain ethnic group doesn't mean they are not part of one. Use of ethnic slurs or epiteths are also frowned upon, even when used in a non-confrontational manner. Profanity We couldn't give a flying fucking rats cunt if you use any sort of profanity on this board. It's not the language you use, it's the subject you're talking about that concerns us. However, just like you don't curse like a sailor in front of your mother or in public, those general rules of etiquitte apply here as well. Think of profanity as seasoning - a dash here and there is fine for spicing things up from time to time. Warez (Illegal Software) You cannot advertise, or discuss any type of warez (illegal software) on this board. This includes requests for warez, gamez, appz, cracks or keygens. We tend to frown on links to warez sites as well. Digital Media Files/Links Since this a website about music, it's natural to want to post stuff you find off Soulseek, Kazaa, or the P2P de jour. If it's your own music, fine, go ahead. We even suggest you get a Knob Twiddler account to allow larger uploads and other handy features other board members don't have. However, if the music is not yours, we kindly ask that you respect the artist's wishes and not post entire soundfiles. 30 second to 1 minute clips are fine, and this generally does not apply to bootleg concerts or links to live performances or videos, assuming they are not commercially available or are available online elsewhere. We reserve the right to remove any digital files we feel are a violation of this policy. Links to Bittorrents, YouSendIt, FileShare, etc. are also a violation if linked to copyrighted or commercially available material. Hotlinking We don't like to see links to direct files on other sites, so please, if you must direct your mates to something on the forum, post a link to the forum thread instead. That goes the same for sites that host content. Respect their content and link to the page whenever possible. Porn A lot of users of this board read posts at work. This means that the posting of pornographic material is strictly forbidden. Additionally, posting pornographic material in the forum in the spoiler tags will cause those images to get cached on the user's machine even if he or she doesn't open the spoiler tag - this can end up getting people in trouble at home or work. However, we do allow occasional links offsite, PROVIDING THE LINK IS ACCOMPANIED WITH A "NOT SAFE FOR WORK" WARNING. Failure to observe this rule will result in a private message and a warning. One further thing to note, some websites, such as SomethingAwful.com have a mechanism to stop people from directly linking images from their site. These images clearly violate both the porn and also the gore rule below. Please check this out before linking pictures from elsewhere. Gore (Not Al) The same rule for porn is to be applied to gore. Think before you post. Blind links Blind linking is where you hide the real destination of a link with a different address. For example, linking to goatse.cx. Doing this will result in a private message, a warning and the post being edited to correct the link. Spamming/Advertising We allow some advertising under certain conditions: 1. You are a posting bot from an established label, such as Warp, or Planet-mu 2. You are a well-known regular on this board, who posts often If you advertise on this board by setting up an account with no intention on joining the community (i.e., advertising is your first and only post) then your post will be locked, and you will receive a private message. Flaming Although some posters should see this coming (see flame-baiting), the general rule is not to totally shoot someone down over a post. If the argument gets out of control then the moderators and administrators will step in and provide a more Draconian solution to the argument. Flame baiting Don't do it. You will get warned. See the section on "The warning system" below. Bumping/Resurrecting Dead Threads This is the act of posting in a thread to simply keep the thread at the top of the forum. We don't like it. If you do this often you will get warned. Resurrecting dead/closed threads is also not allowed - if the thread was closed by a Moderator or Admin, there was a reason behind it. DO NOT reopen threads that were closed unless you have permission from a Moderator or Admin first. Failure to do so can result in your thread locking/opening abilities suspended or removed. Banning If you have committed a serious offense, we will ban your account from this board. This means that we will remove your account from the system, record your IP address and stop you from using it again, and we will add your e-mail address to the list of banned addresses. There are only a couple of offenses that will immediately get you banned without warning. Banning is permanent. If you decide to come back under a different account and we find out, don't be surprised if you suddenly can't log in anymore. The Warning System When posting, you will notice a small line underneath your information reading "Warn: (0%)". This is the warning system on this board. It is used by moderators and administrators to keep track of users actions. Everyone starts with 0%. Each warning will step things up 10% at a time. Reaching 100% will result in your account being banned. Please remember that more serious infractions may result in instant banning or suspension. What To I Do If I See Something/Someone That Breaks These Rules? If you see something on this board that is questionable or violates the above rules, you can report it using the "Report" button on each post. This will send an alert to all moderators and administrators about where the violation occurs. Please include a reason for why you're reporting it and if it's a specific member's post, please mention who it is and/or the post # (located in the upper right corner of each post). We will try to ensure your anonymity, as nobody likes a snitch, but we appreciate it as we can't be everywhere at once. Avatars And Signatures Avatars are the little pictures underneath your member name in each post. There is a fixed size for each avatar. The content of these avatars must comply with the rules above, including the porn and gore rules. Same with the signatures. The maximum size (in pixels) for avatars is 120x120. Anything smaller or irregularly shaped should have the pixel values manually input on the page in your Control Panel. Signature Size You can edit your own signature for your posts through the "My Controls" section of the board. The signature should be no taller than 200 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. Taller or wider signatures will result in a private message requesting it to be cut down. Failure to comply will result in your signature being edited or removed outright. Member Status Underneath your member name on each post is a brief description of who you are. Member Powers * You can post in both the General Forum and the Expert Knob Twiddlers Forum and their various subforums. * You can search all forums * You can private message other members of the forum * You can report posts to moderators and administrators * You can reply to other posts * You can edit your post within a certain time after you posted it * You can view other members public profiles Moderator Powers * The ability to close threads * The ability to warn members * The ability to manage parts of the forums * The ability to track members IP addresses * The ability to edit certain members information Administrator Powers Anything and everything. We also reserve the right to bend or modify the rules on a case-by-case basis. You want a democracy, go run for President against Bush. Kicking Yo' Ass This comes in different forms, from warning you in a thread, posting you a private message, increasing your warning percentage, placing your account on hold or banning your account outright. Sound In Avatars This board allows you to use Flash animations within your avatars. Flash also allows the avatars to make sounds. This sounds nice, but it's damn annoying every time a page loads. Don't do it, otherwise someone will edit your account. Posting Polls Moderators and members of the subscription-only Knob Twiddlers group can post polls. If this privilege is abused, it will be revoked, possibly on a permanent basis. For information on how to join the Knob Twiddlers group and the other benefits that come with it, see this thread. IP Addresses/Email Addresses We track IP addresses. We know where you are. Spoofing of IPs, if found, will result in account removal. Don't bother using a fake email address for registering - you won't get the validation email. Also, changing your email to a non-existant one after successfully registering only prevents people from contacting you - you can choose to have your email private via your Control Panel if you are concerned about your privacy. 'Hello' Posts It seems to be natural to post something to announce who you are when you join the board. This is fine. However, you should be treating your audience with a little respect first. Making a first post like "hello you fuckers" will be treated as flame-baiting (see above). Don't be surprised if you get repeated "read the rules" comments. Just our way of saying "hi". Acting Like An AOL Child (aka AOLHole™) Not really a rule, but it'll make a dent in your respect-o-meter if you start posting "asl?"... You don't need to use "1337 5P34K" (elite speak, or "hacker speak") excessively. A few 'OMG" and "WTF" and "LOLs" are OK, but like salt or pepper, too much just ruins the whole experience. Suggestions 1. Use common sense. Anything that you say or do carries consequences with it. If you find yourself questioning the nature of what you’re going to post, then it’s probably not safe to post it. Save yourself trouble and ourselves time, think before you post. 2. Always be civil and courteous. This forum is visited by people from all over the world of different ages, genders, and races. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, see Flaming, Privacy, and Racism. 3. Make sure that your message topics fit the topic description of the forum that you are posting in. This is for your own benefit. 4. Use the search function before posting. 5. Make sure that you have followed #1 and #4 before posting 6. Read the sticky threads at the top of each forum - they are there for a reason, and generally contain information relevant to the forum that they are in. 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Omissions If you feel that this list of rules is missing something. Let us know. The "Mad-Dogs And Englishmen" Clause Glad you've read this far. As a knock-over from the previous rules of this board, there is a way to 'stop the world, I want to get off', or in other words, a way to get your account suspended if you feel you've had enough. We do not remove accounts, as your posts then have a non-registered user attached to them, and it gives people the potential to come back and impersonate someone who's left. Ask a moderator/administrator if you'd like to leave. We can also suspend your account for a period of time if you wish to take a break but not lose your hard-earned post count, member number, etc. I did it for free 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 General As with any community, there are rules which ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible, and that everyone gets along peacefully. These forums are no different. We recognize that not everyone gets along, but we also know that this doesn't mean that the world should stop turning. This page of rules gives you the boundaries to work within. These aren't the default rules that come with the boards software, these are written by the administrators and moderators who deal with people on a daily basis. We would appreciate it if you could read through this page and absorb as much as humanly possible before posting. These rules are also in a constant state of flux. Stay tuned for further episodes. Searching This board has been around for a while. There are literally thousands of topics here. Some topics could have been avoided simply by using the search function on this board. As much as we'd love to see you post questions about 'the kick-ass outside violin solo' or 'old tunes', we recommend that you search first and be informed. General Post Content Most stuff can be posted in the general section of this board. However, if you are a musician/composer with questions, or require a critique, hop on over to the Expert Knob Twiddlers section. Posts will be moved by moderators/administrators if they feel something has been posted in the wrong place, with or sometimes without a link from the original forum. The occasional announcement regarding a new album or an event you'r involved with is alright, but if you make a regular habit of it, then you'll be asked to take your spam elsewhere. Privacy You will not violate anyone's privacy. This includes anything about people on, or off the board. Violating this rule will result in the instant removal of your account, without any prior warning. Posting of personal information (whether publically available or not) is not allowed, as while you might not stalk someone to their place of residence, the weirdo who never posts but is always in threads just might, so keep that in mind. Posting of personal information regarding any artists we cover on WATMM is expressly forbidden, as we're here to admire their work, not hunt them down or invade their privacy. Multiple Accounts No sir, we don't like it. We can detect it. We know who you are. We will remove extra accounts. We occasionally audit the member records as well. Post Pumping Each member account has a post count, this is the number of threads you have contributed to during your existence on this board. We do not give out prizes for high post counts. Cross Posting Cross posting is when you post the same information in more than one forum on this board. Violating this rule will result in a private message and a warning and one of the posts removed. Racism This is a big no-no. Violate this rule and we'll send you a private message, warn and or ban you from this board. Racial discussions tend to start off innocently, but tend to degenerate into the wrong kind of talk. Please be respectful of the fact that many people from many countries and nationalities visit the site. Just because somebody doesn't "act" like a certain ethnic group doesn't mean they are not part of one. Use of ethnic slurs or epiteths are also frowned upon, even when used in a non-confrontational manner. Profanity We couldn't give a flying fucking rats cunt if you use any sort of profanity on this board. It's not the language you use, it's the subject you're talking about that concerns us. However, just like you don't curse like a sailor in front of your mother or in public, those general rules of etiquitte apply here as well. Think of profanity as seasoning - a dash here and there is fine for spicing things up from time to time. Warez (Illegal Software) You cannot advertise, or discuss any type of warez (illegal software) on this board. This includes requests for warez, gamez, appz, cracks or keygens. We tend to frown on links to warez sites as well. Digital Media Files/Links Since this a website about music, it's natural to want to post stuff you find off Soulseek, Kazaa, or the P2P de jour. If it's your own music, fine, go ahead. We even suggest you get a Knob Twiddler account to allow larger uploads and other handy features other board members don't have. However, if the music is not yours, we kindly ask that you respect the artist's wishes and not post entire soundfiles. 30 second to 1 minute clips are fine, and this generally does not apply to bootleg concerts or links to live performances or videos, assuming they are not commercially available or are available online elsewhere. We reserve the right to remove any digital files we feel are a violation of this policy. Links to Bittorrents, YouSendIt, FileShare, etc. are also a violation if linked to copyrighted or commercially available material. Hotlinking We don't like to see links to direct files on other sites, so please, if you must direct your mates to something on the forum, post a link to the forum thread instead. That goes the same for sites that host content. Respect their content and link to the page whenever possible. Porn A lot of users of this board read posts at work. This means that the posting of pornographic material is strictly forbidden. Additionally, posting pornographic material in the forum in the spoiler tags will cause those images to get cached on the user's machine even if he or she doesn't open the spoiler tag - this can end up getting people in trouble at home or work. However, we do allow occasional links offsite, PROVIDING THE LINK IS ACCOMPANIED WITH A "NOT SAFE FOR WORK" WARNING. Failure to observe this rule will result in a private message and a warning. One further thing to note, some websites, such as SomethingAwful.com have a mechanism to stop people from directly linking images from their site. These images clearly violate both the porn and also the gore rule below. Please check this out before linking pictures from elsewhere. Gore (Not Al) The same rule for porn is to be applied to gore. Think before you post. Blind links Blind linking is where you hide the real destination of a link with a different address. For example, linking to goatse.cx. Doing this will result in a private message, a warning and the post being edited to correct the link. Spamming/Advertising We allow some advertising under certain conditions: 1. You are a posting bot from an established label, such as Warp, or Planet-mu 2. You are a well-known regular on this board, who posts often If you advertise on this board by setting up an account with no intention on joining the community (i.e., advertising is your first and only post) then your post will be locked, and you will receive a private message. Flaming Although some posters should see this coming (see flame-baiting), the general rule is not to totally shoot someone down over a post. If the argument gets out of control then the moderators and administrators will step in and provide a more Draconian solution to the argument. Flame baiting Don't do it. You will get warned. See the section on "The warning system" below. Bumping/Resurrecting Dead Threads This is the act of posting in a thread to simply keep the thread at the top of the forum. We don't like it. If you do this often you will get warned. Resurrecting dead/closed threads is also not allowed - if the thread was closed by a Moderator or Admin, there was a reason behind it. DO NOT reopen threads that were closed unless you have permission from a Moderator or Admin first. Failure to do so can result in your thread locking/opening abilities suspended or removed. Banning If you have committed a serious offense, we will ban your account from this board. This means that we will remove your account from the system, record your IP address and stop you from using it again, and we will add your e-mail address to the list of banned addresses. There are only a couple of offenses that will immediately get you banned without warning. Banning is permanent. If you decide to come back under a different account and we find out, don't be surprised if you suddenly can't log in anymore. The Warning System When posting, you will notice a small line underneath your information reading "Warn: (0%)". This is the warning system on this board. It is used by moderators and administrators to keep track of users actions. Everyone starts with 0%. Each warning will step things up 10% at a time. Reaching 100% will result in your account being banned. Please remember that more serious infractions may result in instant banning or suspension. What To I Do If I See Something/Someone That Breaks These Rules? If you see something on this board that is questionable or violates the above rules, you can report it using the "Report" button on each post. This will send an alert to all moderators and administrators about where the violation occurs. Please include a reason for why you're reporting it and if it's a specific member's post, please mention who it is and/or the post # (located in the upper right corner of each post). We will try to ensure your anonymity, as nobody likes a snitch, but we appreciate it as we can't be everywhere at once. Avatars And Signatures Avatars are the little pictures underneath your member name in each post. There is a fixed size for each avatar. The content of these avatars must comply with the rules above, including the porn and gore rules. Same with the signatures. The maximum size (in pixels) for avatars is 120x120. Anything smaller or irregularly shaped should have the pixel values manually input on the page in your Control Panel. Signature Size You can edit your own signature for your posts through the "My Controls" section of the board. The signature should be no taller than 200 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. Taller or wider signatures will result in a private message requesting it to be cut down. Failure to comply will result in your signature being edited or removed outright. Member Status Underneath your member name on each post is a brief description of who you are. Member Powers * You can post in both the General Forum and the Expert Knob Twiddlers Forum and their various subforums. * You can search all forums * You can private message other members of the forum * You can report posts to moderators and administrators * You can reply to other posts * You can edit your post within a certain time after you posted it * You can view other members public profiles Moderator Powers * The ability to close threads * The ability to warn members * The ability to manage parts of the forums * The ability to track members IP addresses * The ability to edit certain members information Administrator Powers Anything and everything. We also reserve the right to bend or modify the rules on a case-by-case basis. You want a democracy, go run for President against Bush. Kicking Yo' Ass This comes in different forms, from warning you in a thread, posting you a private message, increasing your warning percentage, placing your account on hold or banning your account outright. Sound In Avatars This board allows you to use Flash animations within your avatars. Flash also allows the avatars to make sounds. This sounds nice, but it's damn annoying every time a page loads. Don't do it, otherwise someone will edit your account. Posting Polls Moderators and members of the subscription-only Knob Twiddlers group can post polls. If this privilege is abused, it will be revoked, possibly on a permanent basis. For information on how to join the Knob Twiddlers group and the other benefits that come with it, see this thread. IP Addresses/Email Addresses We track IP addresses. We know where you are. Spoofing of IPs, if found, will result in account removal. Don't bother using a fake email address for registering - you won't get the validation email. Also, changing your email to a non-existant one after successfully registering only prevents people from contacting you - you can choose to have your email private via your Control Panel if you are concerned about your privacy. 'Hello' Posts It seems to be natural to post something to announce who you are when you join the board. This is fine. However, you should be treating your audience with a little respect first. Making a first post like "hello you fuckers" will be treated as flame-baiting (see above). Don't be surprised if you get repeated "read the rules" comments. Just our way of saying "hi". Acting Like An AOL Child (aka AOLHole™) Not really a rule, but it'll make a dent in your respect-o-meter if you start posting "asl?"... You don't need to use "1337 5P34K" (elite speak, or "hacker speak") excessively. A few 'OMG" and "WTF" and "LOLs" are OK, but like salt or pepper, too much just ruins the whole experience. Suggestions 1. Use common sense. Anything that you say or do carries consequences with it. If you find yourself questioning the nature of what you’re going to post, then it’s probably not safe to post it. Save yourself trouble and ourselves time, think before you post. 2. Always be civil and courteous. This forum is visited by people from all over the world of different ages, genders, and races. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, see Flaming, Privacy, and Racism. 3. Make sure that your message topics fit the topic description of the forum that you are posting in. This is for your own benefit. 4. Use the search function before posting. 5. Make sure that you have followed #1 and #4 before posting 6. Read the sticky threads at the top of each forum - they are there for a reason, and generally contain information relevant to the forum that they are in. 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Omissions If you feel that this list of rules is missing something. Let us know. The "Mad-Dogs And Englishmen" Clause Glad you've read this far. As a knock-over from the previous rules of this board, there is a way to 'stop the world, I want to get off', or in other words, a way to get your account suspended if you feel you've had enough. We do not remove accounts, as your posts then have a non-registered user attached to them, and it gives people the potential to come back and impersonate someone who's left. Ask a moderator/administrator if you'd like to leave. We can also suspend your account for a period of time if you wish to take a break but not lose your hard-earned post count, member number, etc. I did it for free 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. when ol' joyrex gets mad i read the rules and at that last sentence i understand why. 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hexagon son Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 General As with any community, there are rules which ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible, and that everyone gets along peacefully. These forums are no different. We recognize that not everyone gets along, but we also know that this doesn't mean that the world should stop turning. This page of rules gives you the boundaries to work within. These aren't the default rules that come with the boards software, these are written by the administrators and moderators who deal with people on a daily basis. We would appreciate it if you could read through this page and absorb as much as humanly possible before posting. These rules are also in a constant state of flux. Stay tuned for further episodes. Searching This board has been around for a while. There are literally thousands of topics here. Some topics could have been avoided simply by using the search function on this board. As much as we'd love to see you post questions about 'the kick-ass outside violin solo' or 'old tunes', we recommend that you search first and be informed. General Post Content Most stuff can be posted in the general section of this board. However, if you are a musician/composer with questions, or require a critique, hop on over to the Expert Knob Twiddlers section. Posts will be moved by moderators/administrators if they feel something has been posted in the wrong place, with or sometimes without a link from the original forum. The occasional announcement regarding a new album or an event you'r involved with is alright, but if you make a regular habit of it, then you'll be asked to take your spam elsewhere. Privacy You will not violate anyone's privacy. This includes anything about people on, or off the board. Violating this rule will result in the instant removal of your account, without any prior warning. Posting of personal information (whether publically available or not) is not allowed, as while you might not stalk someone to their place of residence, the weirdo who never posts but is always in threads just might, so keep that in mind. Posting of personal information regarding any artists we cover on WATMM is expressly forbidden, as we're here to admire their work, not hunt them down or invade their privacy. Multiple Accounts No sir, we don't like it. We can detect it. We know who you are. We will remove extra accounts. We occasionally audit the member records as well. Post Pumping Each member account has a post count, this is the number of threads you have contributed to during your existence on this board. We do not give out prizes for high post counts. Cross Posting Cross posting is when you post the same information in more than one forum on this board. Violating this rule will result in a private message and a warning and one of the posts removed. Racism This is a big no-no. Violate this rule and we'll send you a private message, warn and or ban you from this board. Racial discussions tend to start off innocently, but tend to degenerate into the wrong kind of talk. Please be respectful of the fact that many people from many countries and nationalities visit the site. Just because somebody doesn't "act" like a certain ethnic group doesn't mean they are not part of one. Use of ethnic slurs or epiteths are also frowned upon, even when used in a non-confrontational manner. Profanity We couldn't give a flying fucking rats cunt if you use any sort of profanity on this board. It's not the language you use, it's the subject you're talking about that concerns us. However, just like you don't curse like a sailor in front of your mother or in public, those general rules of etiquitte apply here as well. Think of profanity as seasoning - a dash here and there is fine for spicing things up from time to time. Warez (Illegal Software) You cannot advertise, or discuss any type of warez (illegal software) on this board. This includes requests for warez, gamez, appz, cracks or keygens. We tend to frown on links to warez sites as well. Digital Media Files/Links Since this a website about music, it's natural to want to post stuff you find off Soulseek, Kazaa, or the P2P de jour. If it's your own music, fine, go ahead. We even suggest you get a Knob Twiddler account to allow larger uploads and other handy features other board members don't have. However, if the music is not yours, we kindly ask that you respect the artist's wishes and not post entire soundfiles. 30 second to 1 minute clips are fine, and this generally does not apply to bootleg concerts or links to live performances or videos, assuming they are not commercially available or are available online elsewhere. We reserve the right to remove any digital files we feel are a violation of this policy. Links to Bittorrents, YouSendIt, FileShare, etc. are also a violation if linked to copyrighted or commercially available material. Hotlinking We don't like to see links to direct files on other sites, so please, if you must direct your mates to something on the forum, post a link to the forum thread instead. That goes the same for sites that host content. Respect their content and link to the page whenever possible. Porn A lot of users of this board read posts at work. This means that the posting of pornographic material is strictly forbidden. Additionally, posting pornographic material in the forum in the spoiler tags will cause those images to get cached on the user's machine even if he or she doesn't open the spoiler tag - this can end up getting people in trouble at home or work. However, we do allow occasional links offsite, PROVIDING THE LINK IS ACCOMPANIED WITH A "NOT SAFE FOR WORK" WARNING. Failure to observe this rule will result in a private message and a warning. One further thing to note, some websites, such as SomethingAwful.com have a mechanism to stop people from directly linking images from their site. These images clearly violate both the porn and also the gore rule below. Please check this out before linking pictures from elsewhere. Gore (Not Al) The same rule for porn is to be applied to gore. Think before you post. Blind links Blind linking is where you hide the real destination of a link with a different address. For example, linking to goatse.cx. Doing this will result in a private message, a warning and the post being edited to correct the link. Spamming/Advertising We allow some advertising under certain conditions: 1. You are a posting bot from an established label, such as Warp, or Planet-mu 2. You are a well-known regular on this board, who posts often If you advertise on this board by setting up an account with no intention on joining the community (i.e., advertising is your first and only post) then your post will be locked, and you will receive a private message. Flaming Although some posters should see this coming (see flame-baiting), the general rule is not to totally shoot someone down over a post. If the argument gets out of control then the moderators and administrators will step in and provide a more Draconian solution to the argument. Flame baiting Don't do it. You will get warned. See the section on "The warning system" below. Bumping/Resurrecting Dead Threads This is the act of posting in a thread to simply keep the thread at the top of the forum. We don't like it. If you do this often you will get warned. Resurrecting dead/closed threads is also not allowed - if the thread was closed by a Moderator or Admin, there was a reason behind it. DO NOT reopen threads that were closed unless you have permission from a Moderator or Admin first. Failure to do so can result in your thread locking/opening abilities suspended or removed. Banning If you have committed a serious offense, we will ban your account from this board. This means that we will remove your account from the system, record your IP address and stop you from using it again, and we will add your e-mail address to the list of banned addresses. There are only a couple of offenses that will immediately get you banned without warning. Banning is permanent. If you decide to come back under a different account and we find out, don't be surprised if you suddenly can't log in anymore. The Warning System When posting, you will notice a small line underneath your information reading "Warn: (0%)". This is the warning system on this board. It is used by moderators and administrators to keep track of users actions. Everyone starts with 0%. Each warning will step things up 10% at a time. Reaching 100% will result in your account being banned. Please remember that more serious infractions may result in instant banning or suspension. What To I Do If I See Something/Someone That Breaks These Rules? If you see something on this board that is questionable or violates the above rules, you can report it using the "Report" button on each post. This will send an alert to all moderators and administrators about where the violation occurs. Please include a reason for why you're reporting it and if it's a specific member's post, please mention who it is and/or the post # (located in the upper right corner of each post). We will try to ensure your anonymity, as nobody likes a snitch, but we appreciate it as we can't be everywhere at once. Avatars And Signatures Avatars are the little pictures underneath your member name in each post. There is a fixed size for each avatar. The content of these avatars must comply with the rules above, including the porn and gore rules. Same with the signatures. The maximum size (in pixels) for avatars is 120x120. Anything smaller or irregularly shaped should have the pixel values manually input on the page in your Control Panel. Signature Size You can edit your own signature for your posts through the "My Controls" section of the board. The signature should be no taller than 200 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. Taller or wider signatures will result in a private message requesting it to be cut down. Failure to comply will result in your signature being edited or removed outright. Member Status Underneath your member name on each post is a brief description of who you are. Member Powers * You can post in both the General Forum and the Expert Knob Twiddlers Forum and their various subforums. * You can search all forums * You can private message other members of the forum * You can report posts to moderators and administrators * You can reply to other posts * You can edit your post within a certain time after you posted it * You can view other members public profiles Moderator Powers * The ability to close threads * The ability to warn members * The ability to manage parts of the forums * The ability to track members IP addresses * The ability to edit certain members information Administrator Powers Anything and everything. We also reserve the right to bend or modify the rules on a case-by-case basis. You want a democracy, go run for President against Bush. Kicking Yo' Ass This comes in different forms, from warning you in a thread, posting you a private message, increasing your warning percentage, placing your account on hold or banning your account outright. Sound In Avatars This board allows you to use Flash animations within your avatars. Flash also allows the avatars to make sounds. This sounds nice, but it's damn annoying every time a page loads. Don't do it, otherwise someone will edit your account. Posting Polls Moderators and members of the subscription-only Knob Twiddlers group can post polls. If this privilege is abused, it will be revoked, possibly on a permanent basis. For information on how to join the Knob Twiddlers group and the other benefits that come with it, see this thread. IP Addresses/Email Addresses We track IP addresses. We know where you are. Spoofing of IPs, if found, will result in account removal. Don't bother using a fake email address for registering - you won't get the validation email. Also, changing your email to a non-existant one after successfully registering only prevents people from contacting you - you can choose to have your email private via your Control Panel if you are concerned about your privacy. 'Hello' Posts It seems to be natural to post something to announce who you are when you join the board. This is fine. However, you should be treating your audience with a little respect first. Making a first post like "hello you fuckers" will be treated as flame-baiting (see above). Don't be surprised if you get repeated "read the rules" comments. Just our way of saying "hi". Acting Like An AOL Child (aka AOLHole™) Not really a rule, but it'll make a dent in your respect-o-meter if you start posting "asl?"... You don't need to use "1337 5P34K" (elite speak, or "hacker speak") excessively. A few 'OMG" and "WTF" and "LOLs" are OK, but like salt or pepper, too much just ruins the whole experience. Suggestions 1. Use common sense. Anything that you say or do carries consequences with it. If you find yourself questioning the nature of what you’re going to post, then it’s probably not safe to post it. Save yourself trouble and ourselves time, think before you post. 2. Always be civil and courteous. This forum is visited by people from all over the world of different ages, genders, and races. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, see Flaming, Privacy, and Racism. 3. Make sure that your message topics fit the topic description of the forum that you are posting in. This is for your own benefit. 4. Use the search function before posting. 5. Make sure that you have followed #1 and #4 before posting 6. Read the sticky threads at the top of each forum - they are there for a reason, and generally contain information relevant to the forum that they are in. 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Omissions If you feel that this list of rules is missing something. Let us know. The "Mad-Dogs And Englishmen" Clause Glad you've read this far. As a knock-over from the previous rules of this board, there is a way to 'stop the world, I want to get off', or in other words, a way to get your account suspended if you feel you've had enough. We do not remove accounts, as your posts then have a non-registered user attached to them, and it gives people the potential to come back and impersonate someone who's left. Ask a moderator/administrator if you'd like to leave. We can also suspend your account for a period of time if you wish to take a break but not lose your hard-earned post count, member number, etc. I did it for free 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. when ol' joyrex gets mad i read the rules and at that last sentence i understand why. hi, please rue the whirls. 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Capsaicin Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 General As with any community, there are rules which ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible, and that everyone gets along peacefully. These forums are no different. We recognize that not everyone gets along, but we also know that this doesn't mean that the world should stop turning. This page of rules gives you the boundaries to work within. These aren't the default rules that come with the boards software, these are written by the administrators and moderators who deal with people on a daily basis. We would appreciate it if you could read through this page and absorb as much as humanly possible before posting. These rules are also in a constant state of flux. Stay tuned for further episodes. Searching This board has been around for a while. There are literally thousands of topics here. Some topics could have been avoided simply by using the search function on this board. As much as we'd love to see you post questions about 'the kick-ass outside violin solo' or 'old tunes', we recommend that you search first and be informed. General Post Content Most stuff can be posted in the general section of this board. However, if you are a musician/composer with questions, or require a critique, hop on over to the Expert Knob Twiddlers section. Posts will be moved by moderators/administrators if they feel something has been posted in the wrong place, with or sometimes without a link from the original forum. The occasional announcement regarding a new album or an event you'r involved with is alright, but if you make a regular habit of it, then you'll be asked to take your spam elsewhere. Privacy You will not violate anyone's privacy. This includes anything about people on, or off the board. Violating this rule will result in the instant removal of your account, without any prior warning. Posting of personal information (whether publically available or not) is not allowed, as while you might not stalk someone to their place of residence, the weirdo who never posts but is always in threads just might, so keep that in mind. Posting of personal information regarding any artists we cover on WATMM is expressly forbidden, as we're here to admire their work, not hunt them down or invade their privacy. Multiple Accounts No sir, we don't like it. We can detect it. We know who you are. We will remove extra accounts. We occasionally audit the member records as well. Post Pumping Each member account has a post count, this is the number of threads you have contributed to during your existence on this board. We do not give out prizes for high post counts. Cross Posting Cross posting is when you post the same information in more than one forum on this board. Violating this rule will result in a private message and a warning and one of the posts removed. Racism This is a big no-no. Violate this rule and we'll send you a private message, warn and or ban you from this board. Racial discussions tend to start off innocently, but tend to degenerate into the wrong kind of talk. Please be respectful of the fact that many people from many countries and nationalities visit the site. Just because somebody doesn't "act" like a certain ethnic group doesn't mean they are not part of one. Use of ethnic slurs or epiteths are also frowned upon, even when used in a non-confrontational manner. Profanity We couldn't give a flying fucking rats cunt if you use any sort of profanity on this board. It's not the language you use, it's the subject you're talking about that concerns us. However, just like you don't curse like a sailor in front of your mother or in public, those general rules of etiquitte apply here as well. Think of profanity as seasoning - a dash here and there is fine for spicing things up from time to time. Warez (Illegal Software) You cannot advertise, or discuss any type of warez (illegal software) on this board. This includes requests for warez, gamez, appz, cracks or keygens. We tend to frown on links to warez sites as well. Digital Media Files/Links Since this a website about music, it's natural to want to post stuff you find off Soulseek, Kazaa, or the P2P de jour. If it's your own music, fine, go ahead. We even suggest you get a Knob Twiddler account to allow larger uploads and other handy features other board members don't have. However, if the music is not yours, we kindly ask that you respect the artist's wishes and not post entire soundfiles. 30 second to 1 minute clips are fine, and this generally does not apply to bootleg concerts or links to live performances or videos, assuming they are not commercially available or are available online elsewhere. We reserve the right to remove any digital files we feel are a violation of this policy. Links to Bittorrents, YouSendIt, FileShare, etc. are also a violation if linked to copyrighted or commercially available material. Hotlinking We don't like to see links to direct files on other sites, so please, if you must direct your mates to something on the forum, post a link to the forum thread instead. That goes the same for sites that host content. Respect their content and link to the page whenever possible. Porn A lot of users of this board read posts at work. This means that the posting of pornographic material is strictly forbidden. Additionally, posting pornographic material in the forum in the spoiler tags will cause those images to get cached on the user's machine even if he or she doesn't open the spoiler tag - this can end up getting people in trouble at home or work. However, we do allow occasional links offsite, PROVIDING THE LINK IS ACCOMPANIED WITH A "NOT SAFE FOR WORK" WARNING. Failure to observe this rule will result in a private message and a warning. One further thing to note, some websites, such as SomethingAwful.com have a mechanism to stop people from directly linking images from their site. These images clearly violate both the porn and also the gore rule below. Please check this out before linking pictures from elsewhere. Gore (Not Al) The same rule for porn is to be applied to gore. Think before you post. Blind links Blind linking is where you hide the real destination of a link with a different address. For example, linking to goatse.cx. Doing this will result in a private message, a warning and the post being edited to correct the link. Spamming/Advertising We allow some advertising under certain conditions: 1. You are a posting bot from an established label, such as Warp, or Planet-mu 2. You are a well-known regular on this board, who posts often If you advertise on this board by setting up an account with no intention on joining the community (i.e., advertising is your first and only post) then your post will be locked, and you will receive a private message. Flaming Although some posters should see this coming (see flame-baiting), the general rule is not to totally shoot someone down over a post. If the argument gets out of control then the moderators and administrators will step in and provide a more Draconian solution to the argument. Flame baiting Don't do it. You will get warned. See the section on "The warning system" below. Bumping/Resurrecting Dead Threads This is the act of posting in a thread to simply keep the thread at the top of the forum. We don't like it. If you do this often you will get warned. Resurrecting dead/closed threads is also not allowed - if the thread was closed by a Moderator or Admin, there was a reason behind it. DO NOT reopen threads that were closed unless you have permission from a Moderator or Admin first. Failure to do so can result in your thread locking/opening abilities suspended or removed. Banning If you have committed a serious offense, we will ban your account from this board. This means that we will remove your account from the system, record your IP address and stop you from using it again, and we will add your e-mail address to the list of banned addresses. There are only a couple of offenses that will immediately get you banned without warning. Banning is permanent. If you decide to come back under a different account and we find out, don't be surprised if you suddenly can't log in anymore. The Warning System When posting, you will notice a small line underneath your information reading "Warn: (0%)". This is the warning system on this board. It is used by moderators and administrators to keep track of users actions. Everyone starts with 0%. Each warning will step things up 10% at a time. Reaching 100% will result in your account being banned. Please remember that more serious infractions may result in instant banning or suspension. What To I Do If I See Something/Someone That Breaks These Rules? If you see something on this board that is questionable or violates the above rules, you can report it using the "Report" button on each post. This will send an alert to all moderators and administrators about where the violation occurs. Please include a reason for why you're reporting it and if it's a specific member's post, please mention who it is and/or the post # (located in the upper right corner of each post). We will try to ensure your anonymity, as nobody likes a snitch, but we appreciate it as we can't be everywhere at once. Avatars And Signatures Avatars are the little pictures underneath your member name in each post. There is a fixed size for each avatar. The content of these avatars must comply with the rules above, including the porn and gore rules. Same with the signatures. The maximum size (in pixels) for avatars is 120x120. Anything smaller or irregularly shaped should have the pixel values manually input on the page in your Control Panel. Signature Size You can edit your own signature for your posts through the "My Controls" section of the board. The signature should be no taller than 200 pixels, and no wider than 500 pixels. Taller or wider signatures will result in a private message requesting it to be cut down. Failure to comply will result in your signature being edited or removed outright. Member Status Underneath your member name on each post is a brief description of who you are. Member Powers * You can post in both the General Forum and the Expert Knob Twiddlers Forum and their various subforums. * You can search all forums * You can private message other members of the forum * You can report posts to moderators and administrators * You can reply to other posts * You can edit your post within a certain time after you posted it * You can view other members public profiles Moderator Powers * The ability to close threads * The ability to warn members * The ability to manage parts of the forums * The ability to track members IP addresses * The ability to edit certain members information Administrator Powers Anything and everything. We also reserve the right to bend or modify the rules on a case-by-case basis. You want a democracy, go run for President against Bush. Kicking Yo' Ass This comes in different forms, from warning you in a thread, posting you a private message, increasing your warning percentage, placing your account on hold or banning your account outright. Sound In Avatars This board allows you to use Flash animations within your avatars. Flash also allows the avatars to make sounds. This sounds nice, but it's damn annoying every time a page loads. Don't do it, otherwise someone will edit your account. Posting Polls Moderators and members of the subscription-only Knob Twiddlers group can post polls. If this privilege is abused, it will be revoked, possibly on a permanent basis. For information on how to join the Knob Twiddlers group and the other benefits that come with it, see this thread. IP Addresses/Email Addresses We track IP addresses. We know where you are. Spoofing of IPs, if found, will result in account removal. Don't bother using a fake email address for registering - you won't get the validation email. Also, changing your email to a non-existant one after successfully registering only prevents people from contacting you - you can choose to have your email private via your Control Panel if you are concerned about your privacy. 'Hello' Posts It seems to be natural to post something to announce who you are when you join the board. This is fine. However, you should be treating your audience with a little respect first. Making a first post like "hello you fuckers" will be treated as flame-baiting (see above). Don't be surprised if you get repeated "read the rules" comments. Just our way of saying "hi". Acting Like An AOL Child (aka AOLHole™) Not really a rule, but it'll make a dent in your respect-o-meter if you start posting "asl?"... You don't need to use "1337 5P34K" (elite speak, or "hacker speak") excessively. A few 'OMG" and "WTF" and "LOLs" are OK, but like salt or pepper, too much just ruins the whole experience. Suggestions 1. Use common sense. Anything that you say or do carries consequences with it. If you find yourself questioning the nature of what you're going to post, then it's probably not safe to post it. Save yourself trouble and ourselves time, think before you post. 2. Always be civil and courteous. This forum is visited by people from all over the world of different ages, genders, and races. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, see Flaming, Privacy, and Racism. 3. Make sure that your message topics fit the topic description of the forum that you are posting in. This is for your own benefit. 4. Use the search function before posting. 5. Make sure that you have followed #1 and #4 before posting 6. Read the sticky threads at the top of each forum - they are there for a reason, and generally contain information relevant to the forum that they are in. 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. Omissions If you feel that this list of rules is missing something. Let us know. The "Mad-Dogs And Englishmen" Clause Glad you've read this far. As a knock-over from the previous rules of this board, there is a way to 'stop the world, I want to get off', or in other words, a way to get your account suspended if you feel you've had enough. We do not remove accounts, as your posts then have a non-registered user attached to them, and it gives people the potential to come back and impersonate someone who's left. Ask a moderator/administrator if you'd like to leave. We can also suspend your account for a period of time if you wish to take a break but not lose your hard-earned post count, member number, etc. I did it for free 7. Don't quote the entire message that you're responding to, only the pertinent passage. This makes it easier to read for other users. when ol' joyrex gets mad i read the rules and at that last sentence i understand why. hi, please rue the whirls. 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