Guest Rogueofmv Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 THE ARTICLE SAYS THE KIDS PREFER THE SOUND OF 128k MP3 OVER LOSSLESS I, for one, actually read the article, and I can tell you that the "sizzle sound" of a 128k MP3 is not pleasant in the least. Fucking kids and their miserable music collections; all 128k MP3, mistagged by Limewire abuse, no complete albums... god, I feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dylan Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I love the "kids" overgeneralisation. Anyway,. I couldnt care less about what bitrate they encode their music. If they are not enough intelligent to know about personnal archiving, its their fucking problem. Price of bandwidth/HD is so low there's no need for compression anymore (the only reason why MP3 exist). And it will continue to go lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plstik Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I, for one, actually read the article, and I can tell you that the "sizzle sound" of a 128k MP3 is not pleasant in the least. Fucking kids and their miserable music collections; all 128k MP3, mistagged by Limewire abuse, no complete albums... god, I feel sick. maybe they like it because it adds a nice minimal-flavor to their tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlisuite Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 THE ARTICLE SAYS THE KIDS PREFER THE SOUND OF 128k MP3 OVER LOSSLESS well maybe they don't have enough money to afford larger storage capacities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 i highly doubt anyone on this board can tell the difference between a high quality mp3 and a cd. i can vaguely hear a difference in a 128 kpbs mp3 and lossless. the 128 is usually louder due to some level of distortion and more muddy. maybe that's why "the kids" (what a ridiculous generalization) like it. it's loud and sounds a bit dirtier, and in a rock format that can work. i've actually always found this kind of funny coming from the idm crowd who sometimes insist on listening to music that is intentionally distorted to hell. and if you listen to shoegaze, lo fi, early aphex twin...i mean, having the music sound a bit muddier might add to it, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rufus Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeah, you're right i agree it's weird. Sounds like they think it improves the sound somehow. I was simply commenting that having a relativly low bitrate of 128 isn't as detrimental to the sound as some people (like to) think. But yeah, it hardly improves it. A lot of this depends on how well the files are encoded, but low bit-rate mp3s take away bits of sound and add artefacts, they do sound rubbish. Have you ever actually compared a dodgy 128 mp3 from a file sharing site and a .wav from somewhere like Beatport / Bleep? If you're in a club / at a festival etc you can really really hear the difference. With respect, I think you're just used to listening to music on your laptop / ipod which aren't really the most transparent / quality ways to get the most out of music. You certainly won't be getting any quality sub bass anyway! Artists / Engenieers / Mastering houses spend a long time trying to get a really good sound and crap mp3s kind of ruin that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plstik Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 and if you listen to shoegaze, lo fi, early aphex twin...i mean, having the music sound a bit muddier might add to it, actually. would you compare shitty quality (thats what a 128kb mp3 is) to eg the typical sizzling vinyl-sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EDGEY Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What the hell are "young people" listening to nowadays anyway? How is this relevent to my idm's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rogueofmv Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What the hell are "young people" listening to nowadays anyway? How is this relevent to my idm's? 1. Shit 2. It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 and if you listen to shoegaze, lo fi, early aphex twin...i mean, having the music sound a bit muddier might add to it, actually. would you compare shitty quality (thats what a 128kb mp3 is) to eg the typical sizzling vinyl-sound? no, i wouldn't, because vinyl isn't shitty sound quality. that isn't what i was trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tommm Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Mind a 128 MP3 will have a smaller range of frequencies compared to any lossless format so nothing in 128 will sound better than lossless, regardless of the type of music. Fuckin' listen to my shoegaze as it was intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 jesus...i know that it won't sound better, i'm trying to make a point that aesthetically, sometimes muddier music might be more appealing for whatever reason, depending on the style of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rogueofmv Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 jesus...i know that it won't sound better, i'm trying to make a point that aesthetically, sometimes muddier music might be more appealing for whatever reason, depending on the style of music. i.e. Iron & Wine - The Creek Drank the Cradle Devendra Banhart - Oh Me Oh My... The Way the Day Goes By The Sun is Setting Dogs are Dreaming Lovesongs of the Christmas Spirit Two very lo-fi albums, rather compressed, and listenable at pretty much any bitrate above 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 i dont have an mp3player, i still have a discman when i let some ipodfriends hear some music trough the headphones, they all had the same opinion: "holy SHIT! that's good quality!" don't know if this has a point, just a li'l anecdote that i want to tell wich seems to fit in this particular thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tommm Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 But it's already recorded lofi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 some people (kids) might dislike high frequencies because they can actually hear them. perhaps mastering engineers/producers boost high frequencies too much on rock records (well, they do don't they?). bands like The Strokes became popular with students partly for their lo-fi sound and cymballess drum kit. tom drums are preferred. it doesn't say the students preferred mp3 for the other genres. the other genres were orchestral and jazz, neither of those are likely to be 'over-produced'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tidbit Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 watmm is full of kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 jesus fuckin christ, i'm really sorry i wrote "kids". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan C Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I bet the 12 year old Aphex would never put up with that 128k shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 128k MP3s is still far more than I've got, I'm stuck at about 15,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Who the fuck cares? There's better things to get your panties in a knot over. Everyone I know who has any musical sensibilities only uses >192k and can tell the difference. You might as well make an angry thread saying KIDS TODAY WATCH AMERICAN IDOL or KIDS TODAY LIKE LINKIN PARK! "Ruined music" my ass. Sensationalist tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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