Guest David R James Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Has anyone bought one second hand? What are the common problems that one might get from buying one? I have heard that there might be problems with the memory chips and stuff. I dont care if the presets dont work but would there still be normal funtionallity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Has anyone bought one second hand? What are the common problems that one might get from buying one? I have heard that there might be problems with the memory chips and stuff. I dont care if the presets dont work but would there still be normal funtionallity? the common problem is that they all fail. all of them. design fault in the voice chips. don't get one. get a juno 60, or alpha juno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Has anyone bought one second hand? What are the common problems that one might get from buying one? I have heard that there might be problems with the memory chips and stuff. I dont care if the presets dont work but would there still be normal funtionallity? the common problem is that they all fail. all of them. design fault in the voice chips. don't get one. get a juno 60, or alpha juno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Has anyone bought one second hand? What are the common problems that one might get from buying one? I have heard that there might be problems with the memory chips and stuff. I dont care if the presets dont work but would there still be normal funtionallity? the common problem is that they all fail. all of them. design fault in the voice chips. don't get one. get a juno 60, or alpha juno Ok thanks 4 the tip, i think i would prefer a juno 6 or 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 remember that junos are fashionable with indie kinds at the moment, so you'll pay a considerable "juno tax" on one consider a korg from the same era, or an oberheim matrix 6. better synths for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Yeah im really looking for a poly. I havent really decided what one tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 matrix6r if you don't have a lot of space is wonderful <333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I prefer the Juno-106 sound to the Matrix, but the Matrix wins overall due to the programming options. It's like a DCO polyphonic modular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diao Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I got a Juno 106 years ago on eBay for under $200 shipped. However, the warnings proved true, as it now has 2 dead filters, 1 dead voice, and last but not least, the VCA has now gone dead. The fucker is now entirely useless. Don't get one. EDIT: Also, the memory had become volatile a few months after having it. Fucking POS. Sounded great while it ran properly, but it wasn't flawless for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I prefer the Juno-106 sound to the Matrix, but the Matrix wins overall due to the programming options. It's like a DCO polyphonic modular. nah a matrix destroys a 106, in sound AND features. what it doesnt have is hands-on programming. a matrix loaded up with some great presets will bring the win anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 This thread makes me wonder how the fuck autechre were able to make an entire album with this thing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bramsworth Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Since Matrix 6 was brought up, how the hell do you program it? I'm still completely new to synths and am used to seeing all the knobs and such. I see no such thing anywhere on that thing. How the hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Since Matrix 6 was brought up, how the hell do you program it? I'm still completely new to synths and am used to seeing all the knobs and such. I see no such thing anywhere on that thing. How the hell you hook it up to your computer and use on-screen knobs and sliders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dugbert Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I bought one off ebay a few years ago and have had no problems at all Just be sure to interrogate the owner and you should be fine. I bought mine from the original owner, who kept it in a clean studio and had it recently serviced, and had it shipped from Ohio to Washington with no problems. The awesome thing about the Juno 106 compared to other synths mentioned in this thread is that it is old enough to have the DCO's which sound awesome, AND is new enough to have MIDI (and sysex control fro CC's). At the time I was also considering an Akai AX-60 beacuse it had those same features as it came out around the same time (if i recall correctly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 The awesome thing about the Juno 106 compared to other synths mentioned in this thread is that it is old enough to have the DCO's which sound awesome, I dont get this because DCOs havent really changed since then. Dave Smith uses the exact same DCOs in the Evolvers and the Prophet 08 that are in the Matrix series. Just be sure to interrogate the owner and you should be fine. Unfortunately, Juno 106 voice chips have a huge failure rate which is only climbing as they get older, and it costs $US100 per voice to get the new non-flawed replacements (plus whatever it costs to get the new chips installed). If you're really unlucky/stupid (like me) you got an MKS-7 which has SEVEN chips to replace instead of six. :( It's got nothing to do with how well the synth has a whole has been looked after - if you got chips from one of the dud batches, the chips will simply blow after a certain amount of use. According to a former Roland technician, some of the voice chips may die naturally but the majority were traced to a couple of bad chip lots (with lot #41 being the worse). The lot number was stamped onto the side of the chips. According to the technician not every 106 is destined to fail. So, please don't tell the dude he'll be fine. Just be happy you have been lucky so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 juno 6 = greater than all other junos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I bought one off ebay a few years ago and have had no problems at all Just be sure to interrogate the owner and you should be fine. I bought mine from the original owner, who kept it in a clean studio and had it recently serviced, and had it shipped from Ohio to Washington with no problems. The awesome thing about the Juno 106 compared to other synths mentioned in this thread is that it is old enough to have the DCO's which sound awesome, AND is new enough to have MIDI (and sysex control fro CC's). At the time I was also considering an Akai AX-60 beacuse it had those same features as it came out around the same time (if i recall correctly) AX-60 actually has VCOs and a few other differences in specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 juno 6 = greater than all other junos it's funny how in any given family of synths, it's always the least convenient one to use that is reputed to have the best sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 juno 6 = greater than all other junos it's funny how in any given family of synths, it's always the least convenient one to use that is reputed to have the best sound... its not funny its a fucking pain in the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catsonearth Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Since Matrix 6 was brought up, how the hell do you program it? I'm still completely new to synths and am used to seeing all the knobs and such. I see no such thing anywhere on that thing. How the hell you hook it up to your computer and use on-screen knobs and sliders or you stare at that tiny LED screen and push buttons repeatedly for hours on end. i loooooove the matrix6, but it's a BITCH to program. still, i wish i had one (or access to one). my high school had one and i rocked out on that thing almost everyday. *tear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Strike Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 A little like the Alpha Juno then. I still haven't properly dived into exploring mine as programming it is so lame. That Matrix 6 sounds lovely, not a synth I'm familar with at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I dont think i want a matrix 6. I prefer to be able to adjust parameters at a moments notice rather than using a little screen, that is something that draws me to a juno, thats what i enjoy about a 101. Im sure the matrix is a top synth tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 you can add "real" knobs to both the matrix and the alpha juno with a box like this: though you can't get too excited with the matrix as changing lots of things all at once make it stop and think for a bit (slow cpu). I'm not knocking your wish to have "hands on" - there's a reason people pay (a lot) extra for that. there is more than one way to skin that cat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I found that when i added knobs to my Alpha Juno, it kind of made it really clear just how simple and limited Junos are, which was a bit of a bummer. I almost preferred selecting presets and not really knowing how they were made. I had a similar "let down" experience the first time I tried a Juno 106 (having owned an MKS-7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 what would be a sensible price on ebay at the mo for a juno 6? What might be the pro and cons in terms of problems? Im not overly worried about tuning as long as it plays from semi tone to semi tone, as u can genrally just tune the oscillators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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