Guest zaphod Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 fiction, with some kind of contemporary social commentary that deals with the economic underclass, profiles a city, etc? or is it that all fiction writers are basically white males who complain about sex or living in the suburbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 oh i dont want to ruin this thread but i just want to point out that season 1 of the wire just came in the mail yesterday so i'm pumped to start watching it this weekend. carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 yeah i'm rewatching it which is why i made this. also watching the corner, which is nearly as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ed McBain books? the Wire but old school.... Harry Potter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 oh yeah harry potter. *deletes thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 kidding man, true crime section, third row on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbio2007 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 No one has mentioned 'The Corner' yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Check out 'The Corner' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Mrs Dalloway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playbynumbers Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 fiction, with some kind of contemporary social commentary that deals with the economic underclass, profiles a city, etc? or is it that all fiction writers are basically white males who complain about sex or living in the suburbs? you know, dickensian! other than dickens, no also; watching the wire for the second time, with someone else, as i did last year, actually made me appreciate it less. a lot of the dialogue is really silly; and some of the actors (especially mcnulty) aren't actually that impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catsonearth Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 david simon, the guy who created the wire and the corner based them on some books he wrote. homicide; a year on the killing streets the corner; a year in the life of an inner city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms-dos Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 The Hardy Boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 check out goethe's 'faust' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EDGEY Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I'm suddenly reminded of Mr.Man, "Have you got any books?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 i downloaded and re-watched the corner about 3 months ago such an excellent, depressing miniseries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrx Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 check out k'wan www.kwanfoye.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 fiction, with some kind of contemporary social commentary that deals with the economic underclass, profiles a city, etc? or is it that all fiction writers are basically white males who complain about sex or living in the suburbs? you know, dickensian! other than dickens, no also; watching the wire for the second time, with someone else, as i did last year, actually made me appreciate it less. a lot of the dialogue is really silly; and some of the actors (especially mcnulty) aren't actually that impressive. well, no, not dickensian actually. i'm talking about a panoramic view of a city like what the wire presents, and it would have to be contemporary. i dont think dickens really resembles that at all, except maybe on a superficial level. also he's a terrible writer, lol. and what was wrong with the dialogue? i thought they nailed all of the street talk... lol at mrx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deep Fried Everything Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 i think the thing you have to realize is that the wire is entertainment, though it's steeped in reality much more than many other series. this was the realization i had while reading sudhir venkatesh's "off the books"... interesting but more of an academic book (nothing wrong with that, just mentioning it because it's a different sort of reading) but zaph you might want to read his book "gang leader for a day", chronicles time he spent with a prominent south side chicago gang... that book was really interesting. there's also a dude who was an east coast grad student who wrote a good chronicle of life as a cop in baltimore, his book was entitled "cop in the hood" but his name escapes me right now. those two would be a good start for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 im on season 4 episode 1... season 2 and 3 were the best ones imo, probally liked 3 more then 2 though. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i liked the hardcoreness of season 3, omar and mr.bowtie are the bomb, and hampsterdam, wow it is amazing! i liked the bar scenes in season 2 even though, that young guy (the dockers boss's son) was really annoying, actually thinking back at it, it was good but i dont know why it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playbynumbers Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 well, no, not dickensian actually. i'm talking about a panoramic view of a city like what the wire presents, and it would have to be contemporary. i dont think dickens really resembles that at all, except maybe on a superficial level. also he's a terrible writer, lol. well yes, a lame attempt at referring to the critics calling the show dickensian and then the character in s5 calling it dickensian, because david simon was annoyed by it and what was wrong with the dialogue? i thought they nailed all of the street talk... that was all fine; basically any dialogue with white people, not so great. like; every single line uttered by every single dockworker in s2. or most of the things said by mcnulty, or carcetti. the big difference, to me, was watching it alone vs. watching it with someone else; it makes the bad lines stand out much more, not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catsonearth Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 the big difference, to me, was watching it alone vs. watching it with someone else; it makes the bad lines stand out much more, not sure why. you probably start to get self conscious that the person might not enjoy something you've presented to them as "amazing" or "really fucking good", so you start to pick apart everything that could possibly be construed as bad and focusing on it a lot more than if you were just going with the flow. that will happen with just about anything, no matter how good it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toosharp Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Read "Clockers" by Richard Price, who also wrote a few episodes of The Wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Read "Clockers" by Richard Price, who also wrote a few episodes of The Wire. Beat me to it. Yeah, I listened to an interview where Simon basically admitted he got the idea for the series after reading 'Clockers'. Toosharp, have you read Price's newest book? Apparently it's about the gentrification of New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 david simon, the guy who created the wire and the corner based them on some books he wrote. homicide; a year on the killing streets the corner; a year in the life of an inner city lol, there you go zaph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Obviously the books by the Wire creators are your best bet. If you just want cool realistic cop books, I'd definitely suggest The Choirboys by Joseph Wambaugh, along with pretty much all his other books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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