modey Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 1) if anything, it's the OTHER WAY AROUND. Things which preceded other things in (our perceived one-directionally flowing time) cannot "Sound like" the things that came after. The latter things sound like the former. Not vice versa. Don't mean to shout at you, specifically, Modey, this kind of thing just always winds me up irrationally. 2) I have been trying for nearly 20 years to get my head around Autechre and have never succeeded (::hunkers down and awaits the wrath of the moderators coming to throw me off the board::) It's just not for me. I got so excited by the fake leak because I was all "yay, finally some Autechre I actually like!" then was gutted to find out it was some other artist. lol 1) no shit! i was making a comparison, not suggesting harmonia travelled to the future and ripped off autechre. 2) what have you been listening to? i don't understand how anyone interested in psychedelic electronic music can't hear the mindblowing amount of beauty in even something as simple as amber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 clusters ok but they ripped off autechre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ominous Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 All these guys make me go into fits of frantic digging to see just how far their direct influence got. I really like most of the stuff that was produced in Conny Plank's studio like: Phew - Phew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O-FRPgs8Zs (Moebius Plank Neumeyer) Zero Set http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-o1j3ph-2I Eurhythmics - Sing-Sing Ultravox - Keep Talking (cassette recording during rehearsal) Finally, for all those Hollywood fans, Mosca's tribute is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Goddamn, 'Musik Von Harmonia' is the tits!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pleasure Boater Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 yeh, that album should definitely be put in the best tits thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 okay so what is the best starting point with cluster? album wise. i feel like i'm hooked after hearing this and the eno/cluster stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 zuckerzeit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 i'm on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 i'd say sowiesoso, but i haven't heard zuckerzeit yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ominous Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 i second Zuckerzeit! Also Moebius' Tonspuren is in the same vein as Zuckerzeit, in case you're left wanting more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 So basically Modey hit the nail on the head, early Harmonia reminds me a shit load of Amber era AE. Harmonia - Musik Von Harmonia blew me away, i've been listening to it on repeat all day.Watussi is ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 just finished watching that recent kraftwerk documentry dvd which also goes in depth about krautrock (a lot of the same footage and interviews as that recent bbc thing) cluster is high on my list for the archives as is popul vuh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masonic Boom Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 "Reminds me of" is a lot better terminology than "sounds like". Makes more sense. Start with Zuckerzeit or Sowiesoso as the obvious intro points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 oh shush! you know what i meant! ps. has anyone told you to read the rules yet? now's probably a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Watussi is ridiculous! an absolutely immense track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masonic Boom Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 There is nothing in the rules about not being pedantic! I am safe in my pedantry! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 There is nothing in the rules about not being pedantic! I am safe in my pedantry! ;-) i think you should read them again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 is there any Neu that sounds as electronic as this top tier harmonia album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 not that i'm aware of.. i think they've mostly been about guitars and acoustic drums. the first album (i think? the one with hallogallo and weissensee on it) is pretty ambient in parts though, if you haven't heard it already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ominous Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 From what i can remember, i don't think so; you might have better luck with a few songs from his solo albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masonic Boom Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 neu is generally all guitars and drums... a few bits of piano and things but not very much like cluster. The later NEU! stuff, when they started to go their separate ways can get quite spacey and ambient. I'm gonna look it up so I don't mangle my German. Isi and Seeland and E-Muzik off NEU! 75 start to go quite Harmonia - especially Seeland. Though E-Muzik still has the trademark drums they're quite understated and phased out. It's not quite Cluster, but you can definitely hear where Rother was going with the Harmonia direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tidbit Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 *adds a superlative* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 neu is generally all guitars and drums... a few bits of piano and things but not very much like cluster. The later NEU! stuff, when they started to go their separate ways can get quite spacey and ambient. I'm gonna look it up so I don't mangle my German. Isi and Seeland and E-Muzik off NEU! 75 start to go quite Harmonia - especially Seeland. Though E-Muzik still has the trademark drums they're quite understated and phased out. It's not quite Cluster, but you can definitely hear where Rother was going with the Harmonia direction. interesting. i saw the reissue of 'neu! 75' in my local record store, and was wondering if i should buy it or not. those new kraut LP reissues, while amazing, are gonna send me broke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masonic Boom Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 neu is generally all guitars and drums... a few bits of piano and things but not very much like cluster. The later NEU! stuff, when they started to go their separate ways can get quite spacey and ambient. I'm gonna look it up so I don't mangle my German. Isi and Seeland and E-Muzik off NEU! 75 start to go quite Harmonia - especially Seeland. Though E-Muzik still has the trademark drums they're quite understated and phased out. It's not quite Cluster, but you can definitely hear where Rother was going with the Harmonia direction. interesting. i saw the reissue of 'neu! 75' in my local record store, and was wondering if i should buy it or not. those new kraut LP reissues, while amazing, are gonna send me broke! It is probably my favourite, though I'm not sure it's the best starting point as it is basically a couple of Rother solo tracks and a couple of Dinger solo tracks joined together. It doesn't really give you the purest sense of the NEU! aesthetic the way the first album does. But if you're more into Harmonia-y soundscapes than motorik, then it's the one. Lawd, tho, you kids have it easy with your reissues. When I were a kid getting into Krautrock for the first time, you had to chase down dodgy 2nd generation bootlegs! You start to think that kind of fluff on the needle bad copy of an old LP is part of the aesthetic! ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 It is probably my favourite, though I'm not sure it's the best starting point as it is basically a couple of Rother solo tracks and a couple of Dinger solo tracks joined together. It doesn't really give you the purest sense of the NEU! aesthetic the way the first album does. But if you're more into Harmonia-y soundscapes than motorik, then it's the one. Lawd, tho, you kids have it easy with your reissues. When I were a kid getting into Krautrock for the first time, you had to chase down dodgy 2nd generation bootlegs! You start to think that kind of fluff on the needle bad copy of an old LP is part of the aesthetic! ha ha. oh yeah, i love the first album. and i love repetitive motorik beats and droney guitar soundscapes. in fact i'm starting a krautrock band this year! and re: aesthetic, it's funny you mention that, because with my new stuff, i'm gonna go out of my way to make sure it sounds like it was recorded in the 70s: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://rooftopaccess.net/audio/pselodux/0x%20optilucian.mp3 i'm almost there, i need an actual synth instead of just using an electric piano though hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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