Florian Hecker of sampling

[cheeseburgerwalrus]

I have spent these days seeking my soul and I really don't get why most of the suggestions feature sampling of human voice....

 

The first thought that came to my mind was early Hafler Trio (when it was still two people), eg "BANG" - An Open Letter(if I'm reading the question right that is, are you asking: who goes bat-shit insane with samples in the same way that hecker goes bat-shit insane with synthesis)

This is nice, tho I am familiar with Hafler Trio :)

 

Mr. Oizo, especially on Moustache (Half A Scissor)

Otto von Schirach, used only bathroom noises on Pukology, though i'm not a fan of that record

That's off the top of my penis

OIzo: not crazy enough

Pukology was lovely

 

John Oswald's Plexure comes to mind.

Ye was listening to Plexure and Negativland before I made this topic lol

 

VHS Head, obvs

Not crazy enough (probably)

 

Dust Brothers on Paul's Boutique

Matthew Herbert

Matmos

These not crazy enough or I don't know what I am looking for

 

Dust Brothers on Paul's Boutique

Dust Brothers made that album. that's why it sounds so different to Beasties' other shit. Check Your Head is still my fave though.

Yeah that thing is chock full of samples, the dense sampling of the era is my personal favorite aspect of golden age hip-hop, other classics. Lot of clever uses too, even if the sampling was more minimal:

http://youtu.be/OdMo7XJwtBA

Prince Paul doing De La Soul's Three Feet High And Rising, Bombsquad and Public Enemy (especially Fear of a Black Planet)

Another classic:

http://youtu.be/gRM1S6Jno8A

Prodigy and Meat Beat Manifesto had some dense albums and tracks too.

thank you

 

Warren G sampling Michael McDonald (into a fucking killer track)

El-P's sampling of Jaco is soo good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj-4kHBHoTQ

Doom samples like mad

America's Most Blunted has tons of samples, obviously the steve reich one will be familiar to people on here. I know he also samples Sun Ra on that track, can't remember anything else.

Meat Grinder samples Zappa

not crazy enough

thank you for those steve reich and sun ra tips!

 

I think these hip-hop examples are too narrative to compare them with F.Hecker, aswell as VHS Head-like sampling (there was a micro-sampling trend back in the day). John Oswald is the true obvious example, because he's the founder of plunderphonics concept, which is some kind of an analogue to full-on synthesis fixation of Hecker and alike. But i don't know notable artists in that field who would go as hardcore as Otto or Oizo. Herbert or Matmos are soft.

I can relate

 

Madlib Medicine Show 6: The Brain Wreck Show

I really do not see the appeal of florian Hecker though.

I could say I don't see the appeal of Madlib but I know better than that (not to say it aloud, that is)

 

Hecker makes mad use of various synthesises, who do you think does the same with sampling?

Sorry if you got provocated

hmm hard to say, if you're looking for just fucked up chaotic/weird collage stuff with a lot of edits try out Wobbly/Jon Leidecker or Runzelstirn and Gurgelstock / Rudolph Eber. Bang an Open Letter by H3O is a good one too, they also put out Thirsty Fish which is of a similar but more ambient nature.

I like Hafler Trio :) I also like some Wobbly tracks (even tho I really don't get what his 'there is no mountain' track from Less Lethal 2 compilation is about..) and I listened to his collaboration with that Negativland guy before making this thread. That Rudolf Eb.er was crazy, thank you. I remember digging some other tracks by him too..

 

I think Oval from the 90's to early 00's would interest you.

I love Oval

 

 

good one Joseph.

 

Though if I know Cheese, he already knows Oval.

 

And Amen Lare is def correct when he says the hip-hop suggestions are off point.

 

Also Stockhausen and Walkman might fit your needs cheese.

 

you do

Stockhausen and Walkman was real nice, gotta listen to more of it, thank you

 

 

I am listening to Cassetteboy as I write this letter to u

 

[chenGOD]

Matmos - "a chance to cut is a chance to cure" is made up of

Samples of medical procedures...

Read more about Matthew Herbert's approach to sampling here: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov11/articles/herbert.htm

 

I mean I know these guys make actual melodic music, which is terribly unfashionable in the desire to plumb the depths of sound as art, but to me, turning medical procedures into a Matmos song is far more impressive than pukology.

Just my opinion of course.

[Amen Lare]

Matmos - "a chance to cut is a chance to cure" is made up of

Samples of medical procedures...

Read more about Matthew Herbert's approach to sampling here: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov11/articles/herbert.htm

 

I mean I know these guys make actual melodic music, which is terribly unfashionable in the desire to plumb the depths of sound as art, but to me, turning medical procedures into a Matmos song is far more impressive than pukology.

Just my opinion of course.

 

If you refer to my sentiment on soft Matmos vs hardcore Otto (not On Pukology, on many of his early records), i just mean it in the pure methodological sense, relating to the subject of comparing it to what Hecker does - non-narrative fuck up. I don't mean them to be unimpressive or less impressive. Though if i'm honest it's all gimmick to me, musical sounding or not. The whole attitude smells of gimmick. Sound art was more of a care for those composers after WWII. Nowadays it's more like ten trick pony.