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    Vote On Your Favourite User18081971 Tracks!

    in Aphex Twin

    Posted · Edited by jsmcpn

    ok, so if option a, i can do something like this (feedback please):

     

    a) "playlists" button on site.

    b ) this has an "import my playlist" button

    c) takes you to a screen that lets you select which one of your SC playlists to import. (this is checked to ensure it ONLY contains user18081971 tracks)

    c2) optionally: also lets people share tracks that also have tracks by themselves in it. pro: covers remixes, mix sets, remasters. con: might be abused

    c2) optionally: paste in the URL of another users playlist. lets people share other people's playlists.

    d) all of the playlists then list on the site (just like the track listing). shows playlist name, soundcloud user, total tracks, vote number. sorted by voted

    e) you can "vote" for a playlist to indicate you like it. basically like the track voting, except instead of tracks, it shows playlists.

     

    i'm not sure that's going to be enough though. with 100+ playlist imported, i'm not convinced the above implementation will result in actual good playlists being voted for. and doing something like "vote for your top 10 playlists" seems a bit daft and won't really achieve a good outcome.

     

    richard also asked for comments to "bring some humanity to the stats" (interestingly after I posted something about adding comments here... so i'm pretty sure he does lurk on these forums!). maybe letting people comment on the playlists might help... that said, as soon as i allow comments, i unfortunately i expect the occasional person to start abusing it which means moderation and other things

     

    Did you see my previous post about aggregating track positions from imported playlists to obtain global rank?

     

    Voting on user playlists themselves seems like it'd be rather overwhelming, especially if it went into the thousands of lists. When you first mentioned SC playlist import, I envisioned it as being a way to count votes for each track based on overall "favoriteness", not so much just voting on the best playlist(s).

     

    Hypothetical:

    10,000 users' ranked SC playlists are imported, each with an arbitrary number of AFX tracks.

    "28 Organ" is found in the #1 slot in 60% the lists, and #2 slot in the other 40% of the lists.

    28 Organ therefore has 6000 votes for "1 of 228", 4000 votes for "2 of 228", and so on...

    That way, users could rank as many or as few tracks as they like so that every track they rank (even if they sort all 228) influences the total score for each track.

     

    I think the end result would be a highly un-biased list of tracks sorted by overall popularity, compared to the current vote results where bias has surely had an effect by now. The only way this hypothetical result would be identical to the current result would be if all users created their ranking lists to mirror the current voting tool results.

     

    All you would have to code here is the formula, then schedule periodic culling of all linked SC playlists doing a re-calc against the formula afterward.

     

    potential implementations - (i want to implement one of these, not all three)

    a) create your own playlist on soundcloud, there's a button to import/update these to the voting site, then people can vote on each other's playlists.

    b) i create a bunch of pre-filled in playlists (maybe labelled with a style of music, or a roughly known 'rdj era'), people vote for tracks in each playlist from a big list.

    c) i implement 'tagging'. there's a page for people to make tags, then everybody can tag tracks. there's a playlist per tag showing the most voted tracks.

     

    a is pretty straight forward to do, mostly done already actually, but i question how well it's gonna work with a heap of people's playlists.

    b + c aren't going to work well unless we can somehow vote on sorting the final playlists, which requires a whole bunch of changes and possible confusion, and there's a whole bunch of other implementation details that come up.

     

    Assuming A means voting on lists and not ranking tracks, I like B more. If B, I think it should be random lists rather than human-influenced lists. Eras or styles might end up with huge imbalances in track counts, or create unpredictable bias. If random list population is appealing, then how about:

    6 playlists filled randomly with 38 tracks each, where users may spend between 0 and 5 votes within each list, but no more than 5 votes may be used in any one of the 6 lists. Could also do 3/76/0-10 but that would have less diversity.

     

    In any case, 30 of 228 is 13.15%, but it might be interesting to see what happens when a given Top 30 (from the current voting tool) is broken into 3 or 6 smaller lists and the votes must then be evenly spread across the lists. If 10 of the tracks making up a particular Top 30 list happened to all end up in "List 2 of 6" after randomization, then they couldn't all be voted for in this new system because of the MaxListVotes=5 requirement.

     

    My $0.02

    Richard D James SoundCloud - A Gift To The Fans

    in Aphex Twin

    Posted · Edited by jsmcpn

    New amazing album art on Soahcie and Phonge and sum new comments.

    Fork Rave also has new artwork!

     

    2WSPUzH.png

     

    0w0Siox.png

     

     

     

    Updated MP3 and JPG files accordingly:

     

    https://mega.co.nz/#F!HMcAgABI!TXaiAlHSGTno2ki_TuoJPQ

     

    "Cheetah7" in WAV, FLAC and 320CBR

    "Throatie" in both mono and stereo MP3 (some devices can't play mono-channel MP3)

    Includes the two tracks (#001 and #071) that MikeP massaged (EQ/limit)

    Includes the no-fadeout version of "35 SAW II un road shimmer"

    Includes all JPGs

    Includes all track descriptions in TXT

    The four tracks only available in 128 streaming quality (#069, 099, 204, 222) are suffixed "_128.mp3"

     

    ID3 tag info:

    ID3 tags were left alone as much as possible.

    The "TITLE" tag contains the ORIGINAL title, not the modified titles on SoundCloud

    The filename contains the modified SoundCloud titles

    All tracks have their respective images embedded in ID3 tags.

    For tracks that didn't have images, the ID3 tag image is the dark plum color @ 500x500 pixel

    Five ID3 fields were copied to custom fields to preserve the original data Richard put in them.

    Vote On Your Favourite User18081971 Tracks!

    in Aphex Twin

    Posted · Edited by jsmcpn

    as an aside - if anybody here has organised parts of the soundcloud dump into their own soundcloud playlists, could you message me the link (or heck, even paste here for others)? have some new functionality i want to play with.

     

    The last one has a few fan-mixes, which might be useful for testing if you want to add a func() to filter out ineligible tracks.

    http://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-top-100

http://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-playlist-bubbable

http://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-playlist-donkeyscare

http://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-playlist-ventolin-1-5

http://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-playlist-ctrdj

    Vote On Your Favourite User18081971 Tracks!

    in Aphex Twin

    Posted · Edited by jsmcpn

    XF, how tough would it be to make a separate page for a "Rate as many as you like from 1 to 228" system where a user could pick one SC playlist to be used as a ranking tool? Suppose you have many users' "My Favorite SC Trax" playlists imported to your platform, where the playlists are sorted in descending order from favorite to least-favorite - users could rank as many or as few tracks as they like (up to SC's 200-displayable limit). Could you grab the specific position of each track from each playlist and tally a global rank from that? Maybe it would be even easier to implement a track-sorting UI natively on your platform rather than rely on SC playlists.

     

    Here is my playlist - I ranked my top 100 favorites in descending order. If I were to rate all 228 on a scale of 1-to-5, this top 100 playlist would represent all the tracks I consider to be at least "three stars" or better.

     

    https://soundcloud.com/jsmcpn/sets/afx-top-100

    Favourite YouTube Videos

    in General Banter

    Posted · Edited by jsmcpn

    I would like to see the videos where the 'pranksters' get dropped, i don't like this trend, i have seen before when it goes wrong and these people always end up looking like whiny narcissists.. "How dare you not find my bag snatch prank funny and punch me for it." You go in to battle you gotta expect to get burned.

     

     

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