Bubba69
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I got a deal on one of these second hand (original). Anyone have recommendations on how to integrate it into your setup? How have you used it? There's a lot of cool effects things I've discovered, like tapey is cool, lots of cool granular stuff you can do. Such a vast user library. Haven't messed with ORAC yet but it seems cool. Not really my style of working but I wanted to add more organic, swelling, background fx to my hardware music, granular sputters crackling up in the background and whatnot, mouse on mars-esque. So that's the angle I'm taking right now but also just have no idea what I can ultimately do with this thing.
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On 11/13/2020 at 6:31 PM, joseph said:
oooh that's bold, respect.
personally i haven't gotten into glam despite many tries.
I wasn't into it until one day I put it on a weekend afternoon and fell asleep listening to it. Was kind of magical. Still don't "get" it from an enjoyment listening perspective but if it was able to make me sleep in the middle of the day it holds a special spot for me.
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On 11/5/2020 at 8:59 AM, e-mertz said:
I wanna get a new simple yet multi-timbral polysynth. Something lush & digital sounding. Has to be knobby/slidery. And not be above 500 Eur. Anyone has ideas?
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On 11/2/2020 at 10:57 AM, Silent Member said:
I believe there was a dedicated thread and possibly a watmm centric server going back in the day. Never played the thing , didn't follow the discussion.
Found the thread
OMG i was on this server back in the day! I can't remember who it was, but I witnessed someone on there burn down another user's treehouse, it was fucking crazy. This guy was so nice the whole time and then got a wild hair up his ass and burned it all down and then told me not to tell anyone. statute of limitations and whatnot and now I can talk about it.
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No nightmares is like the scene in david lynch movies where the lady sings for a long time and it's boring and you just have to get through it and get on with the film but you accept it because it's david lynch
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I've been doing music pretty much exclusively with the octatrack as my central hub for the last few years. (Though admittedly I kind of don't have shit to show for it but I'm very slowly accumulating "album" material I will eventually master and whatnot). I feel like the following techniques/features have been the most useful in adapting a style that I like to use when programming songs on it.
1. midi sequencing polyphonic synths. I'm never going to use that many midi devices at once in a song, so I just use multiple tracks to allow more complex overlapping note structures. It ends up working fine for me, when I used to be really annoyed by the limitation, I've still yet to hit it in practice. If I feel like I hit a limitation, just bounce it down into a sample, and now I can do even more with it!
2. Bounce stuff down, use fx, spend time making your loops sound ok. Once you have something you like, it's very simple to resample it into a new perfect 64-step sample, which you can then chop up and do all kinds of crazy shit with. Run out of voices for some reason? Using each track as it's own drum sound? Great! bounce the main out down into a sample, change to part 2 or a different bank, and start fresh with your drum loop. I Always have an aux input coming from my mixer into the OT. Sometimes I use it as a master insert (seems stupid but it works).
3. Pair it with another elektron device. This sounds simple but the stuff syncs perfectly. I can add 4 more synth voices and sequence my ms-20 by using the analog-four, great companion.
4. Sample stuff in, little hits, sounds from other synths. Load up big libraries of hip hop drum kits or whatever from reddit and load them into static slots beforehand. The sample lock feature is so useful to add variety quickly and easily to your patterns. It's stupid but it sounds cool to have lots of different sounds.
5. Slide trigs can do wild shit with sequenced precision, it's like scenes but programmed into the pattern on a per-voice level. You can use to do tape-stop fx, or crazy slidey bouncing ball (ok now you know my secret techniques).
6. Use the editor. Chopping up amen breaks or ANY other break is super easy on the OT once you know the workflow, you can get the attack PERFECTLY adjusted by zooming in on the waveform and adjusting every start point and then make sure to save your sample settings in a new file and assign it to a free flex or static slot. Hold function key to make sure your start point aligns with zero crossings. Get the sample normalized, all nice, and save it. You might also want to make the slices end point longer than you normally would, so you can do the tape-stop effect I'm talking about more effectively on sliced samples. The OT is different than a tracker but shares a ton of the DNA so many of the same tricks apply.
7. You have lots of patterns, use them. You don't have to tweak everything "live" you can work linearly and copy paste your pattern, build on top of it, edit it, change it and make quite long and evolving pieces.
8. If you want more than the 64 step loop I finally took the time to learn pattern chaining (dead simple, hold down the pattern button and press the patterns you want to chain.). Just think of 1+2 as one pattern, 3+4 as another. It's slightly more tedious to copy+paste correctly but you can still basically loop everything as you're working on it and get those longer phrases perfect. It's not as annoying or tedious as I thought, did a whole song that way and it worked out I think.
9. When working with midi tracks, make sure you have your patches figured out before you start programming the program-change and bank number into a midi track, nothing is more frustrating than when you forget to save a patch on a synth and your patch changes.
10. Don't overuse scenes, comb filter, or retrigs or any of the stuff that screams "this is obviously an octatrack". The octatrack doesn't have to sound like an octatrack. Limit yourself and hold yourself back on certain features that are convenient and sound cool. Those kinds of sounds are sometimes more interesting when they come as a surprise and more dialed in.
These are just the things I've internalized while using it. Really not trying to preach that it's best or anything, just the tenants I go by. There's still a ton of stuff I don't know how to do with it. I never use scenes anymore because I suck at using them and it requires a steady hand. I'm not great with the live sampling stuff but I think I understand how it works, I just don't trust it, too confusing. I just record stuff in so I know exactly how it sounds. It's just one way of working and probably still not that efficient, but I figured out how to make it work to fit my style and then let me really push it into places that I feel are interesting and let me get into creative territory that I never really reached when working on a PC.
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I loved the crap out of mine for a few months until I somehow just suddenly got bored of it and stopped using it completely. It is cool though, I like the stuff I made on it. Might sell it now... Feel like my mind is in a totally other realm musically now.
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On 10/27/2020 at 5:43 AM, beerwolf said:
chumpfuckery
what an awesome word
never heard that before, I’ll be keeping that
I'm glad I could introduce it to you. I was trying to channel this guy in my rant https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tommy-needy-drinky
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TM1 Open is a Bradly Strider remix
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what the fuck kind of drugs are you guys on? Everything that's been teased so far has been fantastic, better than Age Of, possible for this to be my favorite work of his. The noisy interludes are amazingly nostalgic and chewy sound-design, makes me feel like I'm listening to BOC old tunes simultaneously perfectly mixed with modern digital effects, the tracks themselves have some of the best melodies, structure and overall songwriting of anything he's ever done, carrying on from his strong work on Uncut Gems. Every track varies in really creative ways. Yeah it's not harsh digital chumpfuckery of garden of delete or the juno arpeggiator synth-smudges of his early career albums but it's also representative of where he's growing as an artist and I find it extremely impressive and quaffable but also incredibly layered and full of interesting detail on repeat listens, it doesn't feel like selling out to me at all. The sound design and tones chosen across these tracks have created a diverse yet cohesive array of some of the best designs of daniel's so far and we've only heard half the album. I also think the weeknd track was extremely comforting and warm and not nearly as boring as like, Black Smoke or Love In The Time Of Lexapro, which were the "singles" from the last album era. Maybe I just have shit taste but I just don't get the hate train here, I've been loving this shit, I merged them into one playlist and I'm ready for the last 9 tracks.
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did this thing gleek yet?
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I like si00 on first listen but I kind of hate it now. F7 might be my favorite track though. th red a is pretty cool too.
Does anyone know if autechre have gotten into eurorack? I feel like we're living in the golden age of eurorack when it comes to experimental sequencing and interesting oscillators and all that shit. In some universe this album was a eurorack album and they gave up max
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That sounds fucking great wow
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According to the richard, regarding the promo track. Full release of the promo track isn't ready yet, still working on it.
QuoteIt's a work in progress, it's sitting with it's new friends inside the Cirklon...my life has been hectic last few months, in a rollercoaster way, so not had a chance to make much music.
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I traded my BSII for an MS20 mini a few years ago. For fast switching patches w/ a monosynth I use my analog 4. I admit that the BS2 sounds much nicer than the A4. It would be kinda cool to have an afx branded synth but I don't have a good spot for it in my setup, I like the MS-20 too much
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Even if you think the afx branded synth stuff is lame, if it seems like selling out or whatever, remember that he's been trying to get his design ideas into various pieces of gear for years and it's more than likely that this isn't about money as much as it is about doing something he feels passionate about. Can't blame him for finally going after this stuff full force now that companies are listening to him. Getting the tuning support into the sequential stuff, features in the cirklon, the monologue design, novation updates and whatever this is. Maybe this is an EP sort of like the elektron EP w/ plaid, or the korg ep on the aphex store.
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People keep calling this clip "a great track". Is there a full track somewhere?
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This album is less a sequel to oversteps and more a sequel to quaristice. I don't know why, it just feels that way to me. I have no objective reasoning
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On 9/11/2020 at 1:15 PM, sidewinder said:
Yeah just found the singles and had the same thought as I started "Running Red Lights". Terrible, much worse than "Wherever You Go" but yeah this isn't gonna be for me. The title track with Blood Orange was fine but I don't need to listen to it again.
Signing off.
I like cheesy when it's redeeming. Like that hoo hoo haha song from the new orbital album. That shit ruled so hard, that trumpet lead. I want more cheese like that.
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Damn this label rules. They also somehow end up getting the best tracks from folks. That dwallicht remix from the compilation is one of the nuttiest things I've ever heard, track of the year. This is sounding super fresh. I was into dgohn for a while, time to jump back in.
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For some reason this series hasn't quite captured me yet but I really love Hot Fingers from Rave Hop, and Ready from Amen Andrews.
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Creaks is pretty awesome. Mix between machinarium, oddworld and inside.
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Now, I'm wondering why these weren't released on his label?
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8 hours ago, d-a-m-o said:
Indeed. Never seen such a level of teasing for an Ep.
Ok sure. I forgot about the billboards, that was cool.
Still though, as an EP, coming on the tail on some good, but somewhat random feeling EPs, it was exciting to hear something this wild and I'm wondering what comes next if he didn't feel the need to save these for an LP.
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A few albums recently listened.
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I need more random IDM cd-rs made with care and handed out in limited quantities to friends in my life, can we do like a watmm secret santa DIY music exchange?