kaini Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 here's the archetypical example, using a popular theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9OYMRwN1Q those two chords at the end. to anyone who's listened to a lot of music they just scream 'yeah this was a cool idea, but now we're locked into making a song with it, and we have no idea how to end it. let's have a meeting in which we decide a fast V-I progression will wrap things up nicely w00t we done made a hit!!1!' name and optionally post other examples of the 'no idea how to end the track' syndrome here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 better or worse than a fadeout??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 oh, far worse. a fadeout has a slight whiff of honest defeat about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 i can't think of a single good song that ends this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 some of the best music just fades out good endings for 3 minute songs seems like a stupid idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 this thread has proper fucked me; i can't stop listening to the end of BorW and marvelling at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Dylan Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Always fade out in a montage, If you fade out, it seem like more time Has passed in a montage, Montage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 fade outs drive me cray but i agree that this is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Stars in Their Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 recent BoC...the tape/record effect towards the end of Chromakey Dreamcoat screams gimmick to me...the hippie tabla jam at the end of the Why remix also seemed like a weak cop out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest olson Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 also, cymbal crashes to end a song. fuck that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 i disagree about fadeout. on an album, it's cool if songs fade into eachother. my favorite album, Loveless, I am pretty sure contains fadeouts on every track (though they're usually incredibly fast and lead straight into the next song) also dj sets consist entirely of fadeouts. there is something about hearing a repetition for a few minutes and then hearing the repetition fade out. it's entrancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 i disagree about fadeout. on an album, it's cool if songs fade into eachother. my favorite album, Loveless, I am pretty sure contains fadeouts on every track (though they're usually incredibly fast and lead straight into the next song) also dj sets consist entirely of fadeouts. there is something about hearing a repetition for a few minutes and then hearing the repetition fade out. it's entrancing. that is not what they are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 thanks sneaksta, i was gonna go apeshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdukhSNrW8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 thanks sneaksta, i was gonna go apeshit. i had to restrain myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0pwJ5PMDg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I like the end of 84 Pontiac Dream by Boards of Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 also, cymbal crashes to end a song. fuck that oh you mean da da da (pause, drummer "subtly" counts 4 on sticks...) CRASH! aka the Battle Of The Bands ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 there's an entire conversation about fade outs in this book i once read. one of the characters says she likes fade outs because it always seems like the singers become more enthusiastic as the song starts to fade, like they're fighting against the dying volume... i can't find a quote, but the book is vox by nicholas baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 there's an entire conversation about fade outs in this book i once read. one of the characters says she likes fade outs because it always seems like the singers become more enthusiastic as the song starts to fade, like they're fighting against the dying volume... i can't find a quote, but the book is vox by nicholas baker. Usually they fade right when the singer gets TOO enthusiatic and does something off-key or just retarded sounding. When you heard the un-faded acapellas of famous songs you generally have a "THAT'S why they faded it there" moment. The most famous is Marvin Gaye's "Please dont procrastinate, [fade starts] it's not good to ma..." in Sexual Healing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 that is not what they are talking about i was being defensive because i use fade outs quite often. i like them. favorite fadeout: Pavement - We Dance (skip to 2:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJ7GpHQT24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 wow. just listened to the michael jackson clip. that was terrible. they definitely should have faded out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest olson Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQCQ3yWJDoU ba da ba da ba da da da PSHHH like this analogue wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQCQ3yWJDoU ba da ba da ba da da da PSHHH like this analogue wings Fucking LOL! I only listened to the last five seconds and it was easily the best five seconds of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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