Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Right now I have a jumbled mess of ideas instead of an essay. Can somebody help me find a little bit of direction? I would like to have my essay be explanatory with a large emphasis on how much Avatar sucks. I'm not asking you to write this for me, but instead give me a few ideas and a little bit of direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 How bout saying it doesnt suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 similarities: both use advanced cgi technology both protagonists are people that turn into the alien race of the film both place emphasis on politics both have a love story both garner sympathy for the alien race both are a situation where the alien race is being mistreated by evil fuckwads both used mech suits differences: avatar uses cute aliens, district 9 doesn't, making the emotional attachment with the audience more difficult to create avatar was 3d, district 9 was not district 9 was shot in that handy-cam style avatar has bright happy colors (mostly) while district 9 is a lot of browns and neutral tones avatar lacks plot, but district 9 has one district 9 used relatively unknown actors while avatar had famous ones avatar was gay district 9 took place on the human's planet while avatar took place on the alien's planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 god i love DIstrict 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 edit: actually district 9 was R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assegai Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 similarities: both use advanced cgi technology both protagonists are people that turn into the alien race of the film both place emphasis on politics both have a love story both garner sympathy for the alien race both are a situation where the alien race is being mistreated by evil fuckwads both used mech suits differences: avatar uses cute aliens, district 9 doesn't, making the emotional attachment with the audience more difficult to create avatar was 3d, district 9 was not district 9 was shot in that handy-cam style avatar has bright happy colors (mostly) while district 9 is a lot of browns and neutral tones avatar lacks plot, but district 9 has one district 9 used relatively unknown actors while avatar had famous ones avatar was gay district 9 took place on the human's planet while avatar took place on the alien's planet I read this post nodding at each point then lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 If you wanted to go a bit abstract you could approach the humans in both films as the alien-race. Back on the post-colonial tip: in both films the oppressors are transformed into the alien. One happens as a result of biology (evolution, cross-breeding?) and the other as a tool of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 similarities: both films were shite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Avatar was shit District 9 was the best Movie of 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Main Entry: co·lo·nial·ism Pronunciation: \kə-ˈlō-nē-ə-ˌli-zəm, -nyə-ˌli-\ Function: noun Date: 1853 1 : the quality or state of being colonial 2 : something characteristic of a colony 3 a : control by one power over a dependent area or people b : a policy advocating or based on such control it definitely fits, but I also mentioned apartheid for district 9 colonialism may be more for avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 that's not really a fair comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 avatar is an engaging film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 avatar is like a big puddle and district 9 is like a fairly deep well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Main Entry: co·lo·nial·ism Pronunciation: \kə-ˈlō-nē-ə-ˌli-zəm, -nyə-ˌli-\ Function: noun Date: 1853 1 : the quality or state of being colonial 2 : something characteristic of a colony 3 a : control by one power over a dependent area or people b : a policy advocating or based on such control it definitely fits, but I also mentioned apartheid for district 9 colonialism may be more for avatar Colonialism is fairly explicit in being reserved for control over peoples (and exploitation of said people) in foreign lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. ziff Alive in Joburg was just an interesting short film, and couldn't really have been anything more. No heart, just an interesting idea. dont do that god awful "more indie than thou" act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 yeah, district 9 doesn't really have anything to do with colonialism because the prawns were the foreigners in the movie. edit: i hit 3000 posts. wow. i have no life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 That's true, although you could compare the techniques of oppression used between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 lol @ techniques of oppression. that sounds like the subject of a convention rich white men might go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I can't remember them, but I'm pretty sure they'd include othering, displacement and derisive mimicry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. ziff Alive in Joburg was just an interesting short film, and couldn't really have been anything more. No heart, just an interesting idea. dont do that god awful "more indie than thou" act lol, should I rephrase by saying "lived up to the promise of its firt act", which was, essentially, Alive in Joburg the extended cut? My point was I liked the idea of shooting it as a mock documentary, making it gritty, immediate, and laced with dark humor. I just thought it fell apart during the second act. I didn't mind that it became more action oriented and I didn't mind the violence, it just became very cliched. It seemed they didn't know what tone to strike - if they wanted to go the Hollywood tear-jerker route, or the Veerhoven social satire plus ultraviolence route, or what. It was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 i bleed from my ears when i think about district 9. what a fucking piece of trash crap shit rotten dead smelly dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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