Guest Hanratty Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Should I save music as flac or as 320 mp3? flacs take up a lot of room on the HD but then I dont have to get the anxiety of "am i experiencing this music to its fullest?". stupid i know. where do you stand on the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320mp3 because some shit (like my ipod) doesn't do flac. i can't really tell the difference except with my own tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? yes it is truly lossless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 VBR 0 for me: smaller than 320 and sounds just as good i cant tell the difference between flac and a good quality mp3 but i dont have amazing speakers/headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? yes it is truly lossless wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 plus is flac even truly lossless? Since the digital release of Oversteps, 16-bit wav files don't seem enough, so bleep made 24-bit wav files available solely for Autechre. Afterwards people will complain there is a difference between 48-bit and 24-bit wav files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? yes it is truly lossless wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do? flac is just a fancy way of zipping a .wav file. no information is lost from the original .wav input. you can unflac your file, and get back 100% of the data you started with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? yes it is truly lossless wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do? flac is just a fancy way of zipping a .wav file. no information is lost from the original .wav input. you can unflac your file, and get back 100% of the data you started with. so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate? a wav file has fixed bitrate. the same bitrate as the cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate? a wav file has fixed bitrate. the same bitrate as the cd. i guess i just don't understand how it can be lossless and have a bitrate. unless i am confused about the definition of lossless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless? yes it is truly lossless wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do? you're talking about bit-depth. completely different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If your ipod doesn't support FLAC , USE OTHER LOSSLESS FORMAT OR GET FUCKING ROCKBOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i guess i just don't understand how it can be lossless and have a bitrate. unless i am confused about the definition of lossless. lossless just means you don't lose anything going from one format to another. the data is the same on the cd, in the .wav file, and in the flac. but not the mp3. the mp3 discards some bits of information in order to get smaller sizes. for example, frequencies above 16khz might be cut off. the data lost in going from cd to mp3 can not be regained. in other words, it's lossy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless formats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC" it depends on choice man. if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC" it depends on choice man. if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative. Easy solution - ROCKBOX Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC" it depends on choice man. if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative. Easy solution - ROCKBOX Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways. funnily enough, Rockbox doesn't work on every portable digital music player. there is no excuse for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 wow, you must really love music unlike all those haters. but a flac album is like 500mb, and a 320k will be about 120mb. its all about the numbers. If you use MP3, you hate music. If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat. I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC" it depends on choice man. if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative. Easy solution - ROCKBOX Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 VBR 0 for me: smaller than 320 and sounds just as good i cant tell the difference between flac and a good quality mp3 but i dont have amazing speakers/headphones Yep to both points (and I have decent headphones). I am yet to meet someone who can tell the difference 'tween v0s and flacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i use mp3 precisely because I hate music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I would use flac for archiving purposes on the old external hard drive. it's lossless, so you can convert it to whatever the latest greatest format is that comes along in the future for use on your portable personal listening device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plstik Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 flac, because I dont have to care about storage/space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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