Braintree Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 so, question... for someone who says they never finish anything, why did you decide to get an agent? edit: and how much has he gotten you gigs? Well he's actually the agent of a good friend of mine - gets him gigs and shops his albums around to japanese labels when he's over there... He ended up getting all sorts of other offers too, film and tv work, videogame soundtracks, etc... and he started putting quite a bit of mastering work my way too... So at some point I suppose he just started to represent me too... Never done gigs - I'd maybe do some net broadcasts some time though - otherwise I think I'd rather play other people's music... I do get analytical - I wonder why we make tracks, with beginnings, middles and ends... Why we name them and what they're actually supposed to be... Maybe we're making things too complicated for ourselves? It's like we're still stuck between song writing, which does need to be linear, and tell a story, and looped music, which really doesn't seem to imply that... When I make music for myself I never arrange it or name it - it just doesn't make any sense to me... If I want to listen to my own music I keep it as loops with all the different elements layered on top of each other... Then I can keep that interaction with whenever I want to listen to it... If I decide, right, the intro needs to start with just the pad sound, then I bring in the drums, oh and I'll call it "Magic Day In Spaniel's Eardrum", it's like I'm setting it in stone and closing a door... I sort of prefer to keep everything active and evolving... and without an agent or label to kick my arse and make me produce things which are presentable, I'd probably just make loops forever... and of course, loops are often all that's needed for these things anyway. I'm quite keen on the idea of doing albums which self-generate... So a track is just a collection of ideas and variables... Then it develops itself for as long as you want to listen to it... I think Autechre could probably pull it off better than anyone. I think I try to treat my songs like people. I give them names, because they have their own personalities and viewpoints. Like in works in fiction, we're really only describing ourselves and our fears. I don't mean to sound dramatic, or hokey, but my songs are my children. I finish them because I want them to be whole. For me, not finishing a song is like reading a few lines from a book. You don't get the complete idea unless there's some type of arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Magoo Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 come on man post the loop already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 come on man post the loop already yeah, or any other music that you made (i find it hard to believe that you can't post ANYTHING at all, i mean, there must be some music that you are allowed to post). you seem to know quite a bit about music theory (or at least you try to appear that way) but that doesn't really mean anything if you don't put it to use, right? so lets hear some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 I don't have a boss, I can post whatever I want anywhere I want... But trust me, if I wanted to I would've by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 we just want a littleee 30 second clip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celatid Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 WHAT THE FUCK JUST POST SOMETHING WE DONT CARE IF YOU WANT TO POST IT OR NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 WHAT THE FUCK JUST POST SOMETHING WE DONT CARE IF YOU WANT TO POST IT OR NOT teenage angst? POST SOMETHING ^ 20-something angst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ive got MY eye on the giant pink elephant in the corner of this room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Magoo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 come on man post the loop already yeah, or any other music that you made (i find it hard to believe that you can't post ANYTHING at all, i mean, there must be some music that you are allowed to post). you seem to know quite a bit about music theory (or at least you try to appear that way) but that doesn't really mean anything if you don't put it to use, right? so lets hear some! YOU LOSE...GOOD DAY SIR just you wait :wink2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 come on man post the loop already yeah, or any other music that you made (i find it hard to believe that you can't post ANYTHING at all, i mean, there must be some music that you are allowed to post). you seem to know quite a bit about music theory (or at least you try to appear that way) but that doesn't really mean anything if you don't put it to use, right? so lets hear some! YOU LOSE...GOOD DAY SIR just you wait :wink2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Here it is!! :omg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 HOLY SHIT THATS INCREDIBLE IMAGINE HOW THAT MUST SOUND WHEN YOU , LIKE, PUT THAT 12" ON A TURNTABLE AND SPEED IT UP?!!?!? AND LIKE, JUST LOOP THE BIT WHERE YOU ONLY HEAR DRUMS?? CRRAZY IM GONNA GET RICH OFF THIS SHIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 i was thinking of maybe CUTTING IT UP! call me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 i was thinking of maybe CUTTING IT UP! call me crazy. OK... HERE IT COMES.>>..: YOUR CRAZY!~!!! WHY SHOULD YOU CUT A FINE 12" LIKE THAT UP??? THATS JUST A WASTE OF VINYL> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 :laughing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celatid Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 hahahah WHAT THE FUCK JUST POST SOMETHING WE DONT CARE IF YOU WANT TO POST IT OR NOT teenage angst? POST SOMETHING ^ 20-something angst No, I'm just getting tired of sitting here and wanting to hear this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 i remeber way back in the day... i studied [mathmatical equation] by aphex twin for like hours and hours for days and days trying to remake all those sounds... then i met this mac user and he's like check out metasynth, he drew a line ... then i said "WTF" the end yeah paulie walnuts talks a big one for not having any tracks out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 wally knows his shit, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ~ism Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 this thread is more evidence of how far down the toilet watmm has gone. or rather how far up its own ass it has gone... sad days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Dicktease. edit: I think I try to treat my songs like people. I give them names, because they have their own personalities and viewpoints. Like in works in fiction, we're really only describing ourselves and our fears. I don't mean to sound dramatic, or hokey, but my songs are my children. I finish them because I want them to be whole. For me, not finishing a song is like reading a few lines from a book. You don't get the complete idea unless there's some type of arc. Dude.. that just was a major revelation to me. fuck man.. i'm never gonna churn out something i haven't properly finished with all of my heart ever again.. i owe you a bunch. all i can say is thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 this thread is more evidence of how far down the toilet watmm has gone. or rather how far up its own ass it has gone... sad days. what exactly are you refering to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Milli Vanilli > Paulie Walnuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ~ism Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 this thread is more evidence of how far down the toilet watmm has gone. or rather how far up its own ass it has gone... sad days. what exactly are you refering to? nothing specifically kcinsu - just a general malaise of pontification and theoretical nonsense over the past few months. my statement isnt entirely on topic, sorry. just having a minor moan...this thread perhaps exemplifies my sentiment, but maybe not. i'm just finding watmm a tad tedious and repetetive of late and decided to vent in this thread. hmmmmmmmkkay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest edge Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I almost have the opposite problem, where I can only manage to concentrate on a track or it's elements for an afternoon or so, before I throw it to my partner in musical crime to tinker with, or he gives me something to finish and I add little bits and bobs. But a year on a track? Fuck that. You'll never finish anything that way. The best feeling is finishing a track, when you press save for the last time and let out a relaxing accomplished sigh. Ahhh. Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag Some old rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 That's the thing - I'm really wondering if I'm alone in working this way... I never spend more than a few days writing something - and quite often if I'm doing something for someone else I'll blast it out in an afternoon... But sometimes I just focus on my sound - like trying to get exactly the right quality in the drums - exactly the right texture from the atmospherics... Then when you've cracked it, learnt the formula, you can go on and use it in your own compositions... My track writing does become formulaic, but then, it becomes more about the concept than the particular chords or rhythms you've decided to go for... That's how it is for me anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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