Guest Lube Saibot Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 even still having a $2,000 new Roland Vsynth would be a lot cooler than something that does A/D pretty much the first thing that comes through my head whenever somebody I know invests ridiculous amount of money in things that make 1% difference to the music itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Kakapo: My signal chain IS shit hot. The weak link is, in fact, the prosumer-grade AD/DA that EVERYTHING must pass through. Please explain to me how tight room acoustics have ANYTHING to do with crystal clear recordings? You are confusing mixing/mastering with recording. You're asking about DA as well as AD. That implies you're concerned about your monitoring chain, not just your recording chain. "Stand alone high quality A/D and D/A are invariably stereo and usually used in different circumstances" Not true at all. Do some research. I can provide links to products that defy you, if you'd like. It may simply be a question of terminology/semantics, but you need to clarify exactly what you're asking for advice on. Stand alone high quality AD and DA units are usually used in the scenarios I mentioned. Devices that combine multichannel AD and DA are usually referred to as an 'interface', and more often than not will have some direct way of interfacing with a computer, or as an option. Yes there are individual multi channel AD and DA devices as well, but that doesn't seem to be what you're asking about. Usually they'd be used as adding additional analogue or digital inputs to an existing 'interface'. My advice stands. If you want high quality multichannel AD/DA for $2,000 look at high end 'audio interfaces', something like the new RME or a multichannel Apogee or Lynx if the budget can stretch. The d/a is actually for other reasons, but I dig. Thanks for the tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 apologies to everyone else for my outburst, when someone argues that something being more expensive equals better in the audio world it kind of sets me off Another strawman as I'm not arguing this at all. But can I put you on record as saying a $200 interface isn't noticeably different from a $2000 dollar interface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 PS- I'd like to head this off at the pass because I can already feel it coming, Awepittance, but no! I'm not somebody that thinks throwing money at gear makes better music. I just figured I'd better burn your strawman. i think you took me too personally there buddy, i was not saying you were this person. I was trying to say where i think one's priorities should be on a modest budget when looking at new studio components to by. and yeah read my fuck off message above if you want nipped what in the bud? the lies you told? edit: not everyone here is 'jealous' of your ability to buy expensive gear my friend, although it seems you want to project that view for whatever reason. Honestly man, I don't know what you're on about. I've lied about nothing, and I certainly don't care what others think of my studio purchases. Do you have anything to add besides ad hominem attacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 acidphakist, i apologize, my tone was uncalled for. If i have anything valuable to add i'll jump back into the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 welcome to page three of this bullshit! in cause you're just tuning in, we've put together some highlights: My signal chain IS shit hot. fuck off, i have a bachelors degree in audio sciences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 =me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There's a point in the second half of this video in which Ethan Winer demonstrates what he feels are the negligible differences in focusing on high end A/D converters versus relatively cheap consumer-grade converters. The test, if I recall correctly, involves him running an audio file through sixteen generations of A/D --> D/A conversion with the a cheap pair of converters and then running a fresh copy of the same initial recording through the high-end converters sixteen times. He then toggles between the two as they play back simultaneously and challenges the listener to figure out which of the two recordings are the nicer converters. [youtubehd]BYTlN6wjcvQ[/youtubehd] Now some of you may point out that Youtube compresses audio files, thus rendering the test moot. Well, Ethan has provided a link to his website in which you may hear the test with it's original fidelity here. By the way, that entire video is worth watching, in case you were wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 some mad poppy crum cornin here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Actually I am quite drunk, and my answer isn't entirely coherent as I've just reread Acidphakist's first post and also seen that he's asking for multiple DA outputs and a single AD input rather than the other way round which would be more conventional. Is this to feed out from the PC to a mixer/summer and back in again? ... but my answer would still be the same. Just having the one device, a multi channel audio interface, avoids questions about digital interfacing and other components and clocking, and is also going to get you the best quality for your budget and spec list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 get a Soundblaster gamers keep telling me this is the best you can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 its a good idea to get a soundblaster with SIMM slots so you can upgrade your wavetables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 just look at that FM chip Larry, just look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 even my jpg is more high-end dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Dayum you're right hat, that's a fine piece of hardware. I would take your grandma out to Red Lobster for that beast if you would have me, think it will run my fruity loops demo @ 10 khz 8 bit or is that too hi-fi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 crisp 2.1mb soundfounds my friend -- high end soundfonts, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 your high res picture is missing the FM synthesis chip, therefore is not an SB16, dude i just PWNED YOU SO BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 your high res picture is missing the FM synthesis chip, therefore is not an SB16, dude i just PWNED YOU SO BAD if you say so dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diao Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 If you want to get a $2000 interface then get an RME Fireface. RME actually writes their own drivers so their gear is always stable as fuck. As fair warning, I still record everything to cassette, and if I want it on the computer, it goes through the line-in built into my motherboard. So don't take my advice ever. EVER. Also, I'm thinking about upgrading from cassette to DAT. It is 1990, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 i have an rme fireface and it is fantastic. if i ever need more channels i can just get some adat lightpipe stuff... but i don't, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 A+ thread btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 if i had enough dosh to throw around www.sonic-core.net/shop/product_info.php?language=en&info=p172_SCOPE-XITE-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Kakapo, you are correct. I want to send multi outs through various outboard and only bring the stereo pair back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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