Joyrex

Sure, why the hell not - I've enjoyed a few Ceephax tracks now and then

Just an update (and in case you're wondering why there is no Cylob subforum anymore): Chris (Cylob) and I had an email exchange and apparently the genesis of this thread (aka his RSS rant) was for two reasons: Chris apparently thinks I was responsible for leaking the "Joyrex Tape" onto the internet (I did not; I only posted snippets after getting permission from Richard himself) and why he would care is because apparently he had a part in one of the tracks - I explained to him the whole backstory, so hopefully now he's aware that I'm not responsible for the leak since I wasn't the only person who possessed a copy of that tape (and was not the originator of it, even though I brought awareness of it to this site). Chris thinks RSS feeds are basically to copy a website's content illegally EDIT: Chris asked me to correct this as it was a bit inaccurate - here's his words directly: "Here is my opinion: RSS feeds allow people to keep up to date with various streams of information. Instead of visiting several blogs one by one, they can have a single list of summarised articles to browse. I do not believe that RSS feeds are meant for cloning entire websites. I could use RSS to clone a popular blog, call it "Doing Doing", strip away all the formatting and substitute my own logo and drab colour scheme, and I could probably get away with it. But would that be good in any way?" Again, I explained to him the intent of having RSS feeds from his blog to the Cylob forum was to allow fans who might not visit his site or subscribe to the RSS feed themselves a chance to keep up on his doings, and hopefully drive more traffic to his site and perhaps increase sales of his musical output. I offered, if he wished, for me to remove the RSS feed from his site and/or remove the subforum as well, along the same lines as why I removed the Snares subforum - out of respect for the artist and their output. All posts from the Cylob subforum are now in Music Discussion, so any Cylob fans can continue to discuss his music, but WATMM will no longer have a dedicated subforum for Cylob.

Well, if Cylob thought this site was homophobic, I would hope he understands that the community here is comprised of many people, with many viewpoints, but as a 'policy', I don't condone abusive behaviour towards anyone for their sexual orientation - I personally could care less what anyone here is - as long as they behave themselves and follow the rules, what they do in their private lives is their own business.

Wayne Barlowe did a pretty good job in my favorite childhood book: Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials is an excellent, classic book

Nope - both parents drank/smoked socially (although my Dad quit drinking and smoking in 1980), and grew up in a smoking household, but I just have never had the inclination to do either - it just doesn't make sense to me. Had people I hung out with in high school who smoked pot, as well as a pothead roommate when I first moved to Texas, and couldn't stand the smell of it at all. Major lol @ religious viewpoint - I'm about as anti-religious as you can get (in terms of organized religion). I think the the whole alcoholic/stoner thing is one and the same - you do anything habitually to the point of addiction, you're an addict. Alcoholism is a more severe condition though due to the impact it has on those around you, and the potential harm it can cause not only the alcoholic, but others totally unrelated around him or her. I can't recall any news reports of someone stoned killing people in car accidents, etc.

Based on what? Do you have any idea how many people register per day/week here? My mind reels when people make bizarre statements like this.

Hey, it's a personal choice - for me, I would have to be Sup-level retarded to even consider smoking pot for any reason. You want to do it? Go ahead, knock yourself out. Not for me. not really on topic but I have to wonder why you feel so strongly about pot. we're not talking about heroin Any drug, really - even alcohol - just not for me, and it would be a cold day in hell before I actively chose to take something like that. I personally think that alcohol should be much more restricted than it is, as it kills far more people than pot or other drugs. I personally have no problems with other people taking drugs, as long as they act responsibly with it and not endanger others.

His gnarled, twisted feet were well done though.

I agree with you on the makeup... it wasn't that well done, and movement shatters the illusion. By no means does it detract from the movie, though.

Hey, it's a personal choice - for me, I would have to be Sup-level retarded to even consider smoking pot for any reason. You want to do it? Go ahead, knock yourself out. Not for me. really disagree with this, though. this was my biggest problem with the movie, apart from the other holes and weaknesses that could've been fixed relatively easily. Really? What holes did you see, because I thought it was pretty well fit together plot-wise.

Fuck you - I'm 39!

yeah, dunno why or how that happened...

did you decide to sneak away and smoke some pot? holy shit man "Lack of understanding" Give me a fucking break - I'm just sick to death of pretentious assholes (I'll let you decided for yourself if you're in that camp or not) who complain about movies mostly, from my perspective, for the sake of doing so instead of doing what movies were meant for - enjoyment. I enjoyed this movie - is it some great literary work? Fuck no. Is it enjoyable on a visual level? Quite so. Does it have decent pacing, and plot progression? I'd say so. Is the acting decent? Sure - no Academy Award-winning performances for sure, but were the characters believable and play their roles well? Sure. Please, Oh Great Movie Expert™ - please educate a mongoloid like me on why I couldn't possibly have enjoyed this movie since it's so mediocre. Please explain to me why I felt satisfied and enthusiastically talked about this movie with my family. And, for your final act, please tell me how you can say I'm wrong if I think it's the best Sci Fi movie I've seen since Blade Runner, which happens to be my favourite movie of all time - I'd love for you to tell me how my own individual likes and dislikes couldn't possibly be right in stating something like that. And if the day ever comes that I would be retarded enough to smoke pot, rest assured I'll pretend to hate movies for the sake of it along with all the other half-baked morons on the internet.

I don't think anyone went to this movie expecting answers to those questions, Luke.

brilliant ideas being posited there.

whilst I think this is true to an extent the reason this film is getting so much hate is because its so easy to hate. it sets itself with so much dumb fail that you don't even need to try to think of a stupid moment to mock. I'll say it again: I enjoyed my viewing of this film but it didnt hold up to any after thought. Therefore I would watch it again but I would not think about it afterwards again. As soon as leaving the cinema I would distract myself instantly with shiny objects and dream of perhaps buying the bluray (shiny object) Please, enlighten me on at least a few stupid moments to mock - and let's see if you're not being overly critical like the rest of the lot. #1 running away from falling spacecraft in a straight line A: What would you do? Strategically zig-zag? FFS, they were terrified and ran for their lives. I kinda raised an eyebrow at the heroine rolling to avoid getting crushed (seriously? a few rolls and she gets out of this massive structure's path), but hardly something to break the movie on. ZZZZZ! Next... #2 removing helmets instantly upon arrival Did you hear what they said - the humidity inside the complex was creating a breathable atmosphere. The guy took a risky chance after hearing the air was CO2 free. ZZZZ! Next... #3 "hands up" What if it was an inside joke between the Captain and his crew, and as a last farewell gesture between him an his crew, he references something memorable to them just as they were about to die? ZZZZZ! Next... #4 petting an alien snake moments after being afraid He was a cocky biologist, who was trying to coax the animal into submission, which was a tragic mistake on his part. I'm sure it's happened to real-world biologists with wild animals too. ZZZZ! Next... #5 getting lost minutes after mapping the entire structure I'm assuming you're referring to the two guys (the geologist and biologist) who decided to go back to the ship - the geologist let out his 'pups' to map and scan the interior of the complex, but that data was being sent back to the ship, not the people on the ground. Add to the fact it was hardly complete, since one of the pups got stuck at the airlock door to the ship. ZZZZ! Next... #6 opening the bay doors and wandering out to see whats going on Again, assuming you're referring to when the geologist returned to the ship as a zombie-creature - yeah, bad move on their part, but to what they can tell, it was just his camera sitting in front of the bay doors - they had no idea what state he was in, and even when they saw his folded up body sitting there, they didn't know he was in such a state. Now, I will give you how they didn't know he was approaching the ship, but not a critical plot point by any means. ZZZZZ! Next... #7 engineer smash The last engineer went into a rage (my guess, since it's unclear) after whatever David said to him angered him (especially if it was something like "My master wants you to extend his life since you're our creators"), or when he touched David's head and realized he wasn't real, was angry at their creations making "false" creations of their own in their likeness - hence he ripped off David's head and smashed Weyland with it. Do we need an explanation as to the thought processes of the aliens before they act? ZZZZ! Next... #8 "...father..." You got me on that one - totally unneeded, and cheesy to boot. Does explain her motives for being on the trip, though. #9 waaaaah but i wanted to talk to the aliens waaaaaah i'm a grown-up/scientist waaah *drink* Agree with you a bit on this one too - I assumed he was drinking because he was so gutted that they had been all dead for thousands of years and couldn't communicate with them, and so he drowned his sorrows in booze. #10 cave painting map to a weapons dump planet? I don't think that planet was a "weapons dump" as the Captain implied - I think the planet was more of a laboratory for their life genesis projects, as evidenced in the same black liquid the sacrificial engineer drank to seed life on Earth. The mealworms in the soil (shown in the shot of the boot stepping into the chamber, and the worms wriggling in the soil) came into contact with the black liquid, and caused them to evolve into the penis snakes, and the bit of the black liquid David put in the guy's drink caused him to start evolving and also impregnate his girlfriend with the squid thing, which in turn impregnated the engineer and caused the birth of the Giger alien. I think the fact they had all these canisters of this stuff loaded into ships was their plan to seed the universe with their creations - riffing off the Greek myth of Prometheus and the spark of life, etc. ZZZZ! Next... #11 to start the spacecraft play the flute Why not? We stick a metal key in order to turn on our cars... was that really so silly to use a musical sequence to unlock a launch sequence on an alien device? #12 hologram replays why? I'm a bit mixed on this - it was neat to see what the engineers were doing in their last days, and it served the purpose of explaining to the audience (and our protagonists, natch) what they were up to and guide the heroes to the next part of the story. Was it needed? Hard to say. I'm sure if you edited those scenes out you'd be complaining how David knew to start up the ship, etc. ZZZZ! GAME OVER. this list could go to 100 Let's see: Jimmy McMessageboard: 1 Joyrex: 11 YOU LOSE

and yet you thought Drukqz was only quite good No, DrukQs was great - my choice of words had nothing to do with my enjoyment of the album. whilst I think this is true to an extent the reason this film is getting so much hate is because its so easy to hate. it sets itself with so much dumb fail that you don't even need to try to think of a stupid moment to mock. I'll say it again: I enjoyed my viewing of this film but it didnt hold up to any after thought. Therefore I would watch it again but I would not think about it afterwards again. As soon as leaving the cinema I would distract myself instantly with shiny objects and dream of perhaps buying the bluray (shiny object) Please, enlighten me on at least a few stupid moments to mock - and let's see if you're not being overly critical like the rest of the lot. No, don't be silly - obviously some people will come away with a 'meh' impression of this (or any) film - but to seemingly dismiss it despite what it achieved smacks of crowd mentality.

I saw it (twice) this weekend, in IMAX 3D. Fantastic use of 3D, and one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. I personally think people hating on this film are way too critical or just do it so they don't seem too "eager" to instantly like something and be cool to join in with the pithy comment crowd. Best Sci-Fi movie I've seen since Blade Runner. Period. It'll be a day one Blu-Ray 3D purchase when it comes out so I can enjoy it all over again.

I'm glad what turned out to be a negative thread has transformed into an appreciation of the great music Cylob makes, and why he has a subforum here for his fans to show their appreciation.

Brings a new meaning to the term "cockeyed"

The guy who posted the waveform images said "28" instead of "26". Hilarious, eh?