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  1. On 7/19/2020 at 6:55 AM, auxien said:

    yeah this is nice stuff, thanks for the heads up on it. really liked it, last track is dark ?

    traffic_kng is quite lush

    20 hours ago, dingformung said:

    @encym you are unable to produce bad music at this point. try it, it's impossible

    he's crossed the event horizon of the great music hole

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  2. Yeah, really nice to hear clarity in the low-end for these. Very nuanced, subtle, ethereal sets. Enjoying the fuck out of these. Not sure on a favorite yet: Zagreb early contender.

     

    Also, going into full obnoxious audiophile mode today:

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  3. I picked up different approaches over time. There are a lot of resources out there, and the nice thing about Max is it's super easy to just load up an example file. I think I learned how to make a 1st order markov chain just by using Max's internal search function. I'm still learning things as well; it's been a slow process for me. The earliest thing I recall doing is using random~ and moses~ in Pure Data to sequence midi notes with weighted probability. This was a few years before I ever got a Max license. In a way, I haven't really strayed too far from that approach. I've used 'normal' step sequencers in max, along with probabilistic/algorithmic approaches for both rhythm and melody.

    Fwiw about 1/2 of my tracks on GeODE  were hand-sequenced in Reaper.

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  4. A collaboration with my cousin a few months ago. Realtime/liveset performance.spacer.png Some of it is more straightforward than what I would normally do. Not sure if I'm feeling the project name, but hopefully we can keep building on this down the line.

     

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  5. Thanks for listening friends.

    @xoxThanks man

    These days I have a rotating/shifting approach using about 70% software, 30% hardware. For software, I've been using mainly Max/MSP, Razor, and Microtonic. Just picked up Reaktor, which is probably overkill now. I'll sometimes use tools like Audacity or Cecilia for .wav editing, but I use mostly synthesis. I usually record stereo into Reaper via Rewire for anything within Max/MSP;  most of my mixing is done up front. My current hardware pieces are an old Nord Rack 1, the DSI Prophet '08, and most recently, the Elektron Digitone.

    Currently I'm working on replacing Microtonic with custom percussion modules in MSP... and I'm working on getting a more robust live-oriented performance system.

    The approach for each track on Vormaks is slightly different, but the common thread is Max as the main sequencer. Sound sources include most of the above mentioned. They're all live jams essentially.... there's not much compositional structure built in from the start.

     

    'Zaharra Trek' is maybe not my best stuff, but some good moments when i listen back through it. The first track was recorded around 2006, and used the Nord Lead 2 keyboard, my first synth, and some samples for drums. The bulk of these tracks are from 2010 -2013, and I used the Elektron Machinedrum heavily during that time which drove a minimal all hardware setup.

     

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  6. On 9/16/2019 at 8:20 AM, toiminto said:

    I was suspecting that was the idea that x0x had, based on a comment he probably left on elektronauts? I've drawn more influence from the 2005 era live set and I really have not touched the sysex files at all that were shared, at all. I use mostly vo-6, saw and dpro ensembles + fm synthesis from monomachine and all the sequences and sounds you hear are self made. That said it is pretty straightforward to do this kind of sounds with monomachine, and Autechre has been a great influence, especially the 2005 live set which is kinda evident.

    In the previous live set (you can find that on my soundcloud) I had a track that has bass line really similar to 2008 pattern h. I would call it a remix of that and might be the reason why x0x would think that I copied something but that was also made from scratch, just fm bass and monomachine distortion

    But for the rest, I 've just been making stuff with this kind of idea: repetitive patterns with slight changes, full on avoid drops, sub/bass emphasis on kick drums, little blends and very dry signal path. Monomachine is the main source of melodies along with microfreak, waldorf pulse and digitone. Drums are from octatrack and digitakt. I see the similarity in style with autechres live sets, after all that was the style I was going for, but I don't get how you think it's the same

    It bugs me a little that you would think that I would copy and then post it on WATMM. And that after listening to the set still think that way. Even though the style is similar I feel it is different from what Autechre has done, to the point I felt confident enough to post it here. Anyway, I don't know, I feel like I need to convince you guys somehow because it irritates me. I just love this kind of sound, got my hands on a monomachine, tried dpro ensemble with fixed ratio transposes and found myself with loads of patterns in couple of months work after a huge inspiration boost the synth gave me

     

     

    Yeah, i dunno man. Maybe I made a hasty judgement. I re-listened to the track, I and would still say that to my ears you've at least closely emulated the AE live sets from the 05/08  (yeah, they're rad) in a lot of aspects. That formant/vocal sound in particular... guess I didn't realize it was a standard monomachine sound? I used to have the machinedrum, and occasionally I would come across a percussion sound that i knew was on Untilted or Quaristice.

    Still may want to consider how worthwhile it is to put effort into this kind of thing, considering the reaction. I guess context still matters... and I was under the impression that you had performed this live. Speaking for myself, I would feel weird presenting a close autechre emulation as my own work, without some kind of acknowledgement. YMMV, maybe some people would level similar criticism at some of my own music.

  7. On 8/30/2019 at 9:15 AM, xox said:

    It’s pathetic really! Wait for the guys, they’ll tell you what; I’ve heard it instantly, let’s see what others think.

    You’re on the wrong forum for trying to sell this; it didn’t passed well on elektronauts, why do you think I’ll pass here?! It’s watmm ffs! 

     

    On 8/30/2019 at 9:25 AM, toiminto said:

    What's pathetic about it? ? Not really selling anything but wanted to hear opinions about it. I've always loved Untilted era live sets the most and the repetitive pattern morphing

    My assessment: sounds way to close to the '08 live set; you clearly plugged in the recently released set data into the relevant machines. Your mistake was trying to pass this off as your own work; should have called it what it is, a remix using Autechre source data.

    It's one thing for autechre to be an influence on your sound (i know I'm probably over-indexed), but this seems a lot like plagiarism.

     

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