Fred McGriff Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 i decided earlier this week that one of the saddest things i could think of is chickens in large industrial farms spending their entire lives couped in a cage crammed with other chickens, unable to move, until they are slaughtered. essentially meat vegetables. now dont get me wrong i know chickens are bird brains and can be vicious little shits to each other, but i have a weakness for chickens because my mom is a giant hen. regardless, as i'm sure most would agree, it doesn't seem ethical. i understand why many people choose to be vegetarians and i respect and commend that but at the same time i'm very in tune with my inner carnivore and enjoy eating meat and believe on a spiritual level that the chicken lives a completely fulfilled chicken life if it gets to run around and be free and boc and cluck around for a while then become food for an appreciative family. so i was doing some research on what exactly free-range is, and turns out it's a scam (at least here in the US). basically as long as the chicken has access to the outside like five minutes a day then it can be considered free-range. and as far as cage-free goes, here's a picture of that: (related article from the times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/us/12eggs.html?_r=1 so what's the answer? i dont know really. so far it seems if you want to eat a happy chicken it should be organic. but i need to research further on that. some friends of mine here have their own chickens and sometimes i go over there and feed them bananas. they love bananas. i might try raising my own chickens for the eggs, obviously i would grow attached to them and feel weird about eating them. but you can order a box of chicks for like, a couple of bucks, and build a coop in you backyard. something i might have to look into. i wonder if chickens get along with ducks. chickens make some pretty fucking awesome noises too. chickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I've started buying duck eggs. Duck eggs are amazing. The yolk is really big and dark yellow and supremely delicious. They only cost about 25% more than chicken eggs but they are at least twice as good. The shells are harder too and they never shatter and get in your food when you break the egg. Ducks make amazing noises too. Ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 where do you get them? god i hope they dont keep ducks cooped up for that. ducks need to swim around a lot and quack contentedly most of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 if you don't want to give up chicken for the reasons outlined above, then consider the crap that is pumped into them throughout their entirely unatural lives. antibiotics... hormones to speed up their growth.... animal waste diet.... thousands of chickens die in the sheds, their prematurely bloated chicken bodies too heavy for their little chicken leggys to carry them, they cant walk. chicken farm workers smash them to death right there in the shed and throw their bloated, smashed up corpses away. their beaks are cut off as chicks to prevent them pecking each other to death. etc etc etc farmers also smash the teeth out of piglets to stop them attacking each other. enjoy your bacon chaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpbtBgLfl90 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Yeah the way chickens are kept is pretty fucking disgusting, and the only difference in free range chickens is exactly like you say, access to the outdoors for five minutes a day and I believe the food they are fed on is of higher quality. Other than that it's animal cruelty imo. Getting and breeding your own chickens really is the only solution, however, could you really bring yourself to kill it and eat it after you've raised? Raise a chicken and then tell me you didn't find it hard to kill it and eat it. And keep a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 if you don't want to give up chicken for the reasons outlined above, then consider the crap that is pumped into them throughout their entirely unatural lives. antibiotics... hormones to speed up their growth.... animal waste diet.... thousands of chickens die in the sheds, their prematurely bloated chicken bodies too heavy for their little chicken leggys to carry them, they cant walk. chicken farm workers smash them to death right there in the shed and throw their bloated, smashed up corpses away. their beaks are cut off as chicks to prevent them pecking each other to death. etc etc etc farmers also smash the teeth out of piglets to stop them attacking each other. enjoy your bacon chaps And this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 where do you get them? god i hope they dont keep ducks cooped up for that. ducks need to swim around a lot and quack contentedly most of the day. at the supermarket. I have no idea how they are kept, I had a quick google but nothing came up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 hey fred I've got a book recommendation for you: The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan it's not about chickens specifically but I think you'll dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 ducks & geese have got it just as bad, if not worse. foie gras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 keyword: gavage very cruel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 From a carnivore's point of view they taste better too. There's much more flavour to free range chickens, they're less grey and have more tenderness to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 did you see Food Inc too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idrn Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 http://forum.watmm.com/topic/50695-how-can-i-make-some-gravy/page__view__findpost__p__1165836 RELEVANT POST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 did you see Food Inc too? Only monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gump Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 sheep give birth to little lambs, the lambs then live in the fields with the sheep until they are in prime lamb condition. then we kill them and eat them. lamb is the best meat. LAMB you have to feel sorry for the little lamb chaps but lets be honest here, they taste fucking delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 if god hadnt wanted us to eat animals, why did he make them taste so damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 its a trap, the devil did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 my mate ate a cat in peru recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 you have to feel sorry for the little lamb chaps but lets be honest here, they taste fucking delicious. Decided not to go with chops in the post hey? and I've never eaten cat, but dog can be fairly tasty if prepared right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 ....and a guinea pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 ....and a guinea pig good god, there's not much meat on those fuckers. Unless peruvian guinea pigs are substantially larger because of all the blow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fox Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 you wanna save the chickens? Eat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 guinea pigs are especially delicious when dunked in gravy. plus, they're very generous creatures, if you squeeze them they give you brown rice. *eats gravy soaked brown rice* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 i'm kind of into the idea of eating a guinea pig right now. garnish the dish with those little dumb floppy ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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