UFO documentary -creepy

[Guest ruiagnelo]

It's because no one gives a shit. Scientists prefer to make fun of UFOs, and aliens prefer to collect DNA rather than interacting wth us.

 

it's not that no one gives a shit.

all the info is either hidden and forbidden to access as top secret or simply not convincing.

 

there is something behind all this, like a purpose. a purpose not to discover the truth.

[Guest ruiagnelo]

 

I don't know much about this at all, but I would think a planet with similar life conditions to our own would spawn creatures not too different from what we're familiar with. The potential for a human being (and all its ancestors) was enfolded in the Soup. I would think similar conditions would bring about similar life forms. A brain, eyes, skeleton, between two and four legs for the more advanced species. You know... sort of like people.

 

 

i get your point.

but i said 'similar conditions' in the sense of having conditions suitable for a certain species to develop itself. not exactly having oxygen and water as nuclear to a living, but something else playing that role. i can't seem to find the right words to describe it.

 

in such a huge universe, i guess there are way more possibilites than those we can imagine and those we insist on making look like our own image.

[Guest happycase]

It's naive in our quantum-savvy world to think that the total outflow of positive and negative energies get played out karmically on our own planet or in our personal spheres of life. A percentage of the energy expenditure involved in good and bad deeds finds itself instantaneously in pools of positive and negative cosmic energy at various hotspots around the cosmos. Cthulu and Gandalf feed off of this energy and are locked interminably in battle, which feeds back into the psychic energy system of the collective unconscious. Cthulu is a representative for the porn industry by day.

[chim]

It's because no one gives a shit. Scientists prefer to make fun of UFOs, and aliens prefer to collect DNA rather than interacting wth us.

 

it's not that no one gives a shit.

all the info is either hidden and forbidden to access as top secret or simply not convincing.

 

there is something behind all this, like a purpose. a purpose not to discover the truth.

 

NASA won't share the truth on UFOs because the public would freak. It's not a conspiracy, it's just an assbackward form of protecting the public.

[Guest Babar]

The USA is the only country that hides informations about UFOs. But UFOs can be seen everywhere in the world, and other countries tend to have a more transparent policy about it.

Maybe uncle sam has some interesting reports in thze depth of his drawers, but most likely he's hidding the same kind of stuffs other governments are publicly releasing.

 

This is how i see things:

-98% of people don't give a shit. Most of them goes by what the doxa say. : ufos do not exists and are imagined/hallucinated by hoaxers/loons. Some of them are informed UFOs do exists and are either military or alien spacecrafts.

-1% believes in UFOs. To them they are mostly extraterrestrial but some of them tend to think they are rather human weapons. They like to talk about consiparacies, cosmic beings

 

*LOL my mom just biked in my room, she asked for a cig but as i don't have tobacco anymore, she took a couple of cig-asses and went out. Prior to that she punched my head and added she was excited*

 

back on topic : they like to talk about cosmic conspiracies and ultradimensions. They tend to gather on the same forums.

-1% totally "disbelieve" in UFOs, most of time they have a strong scientific basis. They think it's always possible to reduce an UFO case to a known physical or sociological fact and they will never admit a sighting has no known explanation. They picture themselves as bright minds shedding lights on a dark world, but they are as bigoted as the previous category. They can do quality investigations though and roam the same forums.

 

Sometimes those two categories meet during 80 page long topic on some obscure forums. These discussions can be an occasion to observe extremely argumentative texts but nothing more. They are sterile virtual arguments that will never reach the real word. Because.... no one gives a shit. Hence the governement doesn't give high priority to UFO research. Hence internet trolls.

 

I can still see a change ahead :People believe what they see. At least they need a minimum level of trust and proof : maybe around 2070s grandpas will show footages they shot back in the 2020s to their grandsons telling them :"see, it's the UFO i saw, maybe you will see one in your life if you're lucky". That would help changing minds, and I think the Internet has already played an important role in this.

[Guest ruiagnelo]

It's because no one gives a shit. Scientists prefer to make fun of UFOs, and aliens prefer to collect DNA rather than interacting wth us.

 

it's not that no one gives a shit.

all the info is either hidden and forbidden to access as top secret or simply not convincing.

 

there is something behind all this, like a purpose. a purpose not to discover the truth.

 

NASA won't share the truth on UFOs because the public would freak. It's not a conspiracy, it's just an assbackward form of protecting the public.

 

there is an image of alien, of extraterrestrial that was created by man in his own image.

i think people are afraid of that. of that vision of humanoid creature, whose presence or even existence is uncomfortable for men.

 

alien species are something way beyond our image or essence, if you ask me.

 

humans are too focused on themselves, that is why they are afraid to discover the truth.

[vertsk8er419]

-1% believes in UFOs. To them they are mostly extraterrestrial but some of them tend to think they are rather human weapons. They like to talk about consiparacies, cosmic beings

back on topic : they like to talk about cosmic conspiracies and ultradimensions. They tend to gather on the same forums.

-1% totally "disbelieve" in UFOs, most of time they have a strong scientific basis. They think it's always possible to reduce an UFO case to a known physical or sociological fact and they will never admit a sighting has no known explanation. They picture themselves as bright minds shedding lights on a dark world, but they are as bigoted as the previous category. They can do quality investigations though and roam the same forums.

i found all this hard to digest, i assume it's because English is not your first language of choice, correct?

[Guest ruiagnelo]

-1% believes in UFOs. To them they are mostly extraterrestrial but some of them tend to think they are rather human weapons. They like to talk about consiparacies, cosmic beings

back on topic : they like to talk about cosmic conspiracies and ultradimensions. They tend to gather on the same forums.

-1% totally "disbelieve" in UFOs, most of time they have a strong scientific basis. They think it's always possible to reduce an UFO case to a known physical or sociological fact and they will never admit a sighting has no known explanation. They picture themselves as bright minds shedding lights on a dark world, but they are as bigoted as the previous category. They can do quality investigations though and roam the same forums.

i found all this hard to digest, i assume it's because English is not your first language of choice, correct?

 

his english is actually not bad. but he introduced the mom episode in the middle and i completely lost my concentration.

[Guest Ranky Redlof]

wrong, the French speak English all the time and never dub a movie

 

Believing in aliens is like a religion ( based on nothing but lies and misinterpretations of facts )

[azatoth]

What bothers me about these UFO reveals is that it's made in such a sensationalist manner. Giving out small tidbits of information instead of offering up everything for scientific scrutiny.

[lumpenprol]

I don't much care about UFO sightings one way or another (until irrefutable evidence comes along) but I liked the idea put forward in one of those "Disclosure project" videos that aliens may be watching over us, and prevented us from destroying ourselves during the Cold War. Though I think it's highly unlikely, I like the idea of aliens playing the God role, being the shepherds watching over us and giving us a nudge now and again, until we are evolved enough for them to reveal themselves.

[vertsk8er419]

I don't much care about UFO sightings one way or another (until irrefutable evidence comes along) but I liked the idea put forward in one of those "Disclosure project" videos that aliens may be watching over us, and prevented us from destroying ourselves during the Cold War. Though I think it's highly unlikely, I like the idea of aliens playing the God role, being the shepherds watching over us and giving us a nudge now and again, until we are evolved enough for them to reveal themselves.

yerp, but easy on the God/the sheperd allegories. we want to shed all possible religious notions first in order to evolve to such a level, because it's those old belief systems that have us stagnating where we currently are today.

[Guest Babar]

-1% believes in UFOs. To them they are mostly extraterrestrial but some of them tend to think they are rather human weapons. They like to talk about consiparacies, cosmic beings

back on topic : they like to talk about cosmic conspiracies and ultradimensions. They tend to gather on the same forums.

-1% totally "disbelieve" in UFOs, most of time they have a strong scientific basis. They think it's always possible to reduce an UFO case to a known physical or sociological fact and they will never admit a sighting has no known explanation. They picture themselves as bright minds shedding lights on a dark world, but they are as bigoted as the previous category. They can do quality investigations though and roam the same forums.

i found all this hard to digest, i assume it's because English is not your first language of choice, correct?

I have absolutely no idea if it's due to the way i phrase things or if your impression is caused by some local grammar mistakes as the only feedback I can get about my english is through Google. And it takes quite a lot of time. So I won't google proof read it in the hope that you will point me what I HAVE DONE WRONG GODDAMNIT !

 

 

wrong, the French speak English all the time and never dub a movie

 

Believing in aliens is like a religion ( based on nothing but lies and misinterpretations of facts )

 

But governmental/milatry agencies study UFO reports all around the world. And I can assure you they take it very seriously. How do you explain that ?

 

may be watching over us, and prevented us from destroying ourselves during the Cold War.

 

Back in the 1980s president Mitterrand commanded a report on UFOs. The army officials whoe were in charge of it wrote UFOs had been spotted over nuclear bases, even disarming missiles at some occasions.

But still, the aliens don't give a damn shit. They're just interested in DNA. That's why they watch our bombs. They fear that we cause a massive extinction. And if you relate this to cow mutilations, pschhhhhh as if by magic, the big picture appears : they only want a piece of steak.

[Guest happycase]

Bach was an alien.

[Guest Ranky Redlof]

 

wrong, the French speak English all the time and never dub a movie

 

Believing in aliens is like a religion ( based on nothing but lies and misinterpretations of facts )

 

But governmental/milatry agencies study UFO reports all around the world. And I can assure you they take it very seriously. How do you explain that ?

 

 

UFO != aliens

 

would be stupid not to investigate if an unauthorised object has been spotted, seems pretty standard to me.

and most of the "hot-spots" seem te be close to military bases, so its always interesting for governments from other nations to take a look at these x-files as a form of spying ...

Aliens and other hocus-pocus new age bs are really far fetched imo.

Its good to have an open mind ofcourse, as long as you don't get blinded by todays flood of youtube crap most people use as evidence during drunk discussions in bars.

[posture]

[YEK]

i found it interesting that people have spotted ufo's in the day with the night vision settings on their video cameras

 

also in that documentary when they show moving light right out of our atmosphere a lot of them look and move like sperm

[Atop]

I love the book Childhood's End....

[vertsk8er419]

-1% believes in UFOs. To them they are mostly extraterrestrial but some of them tend to think they are rather human weapons. They like to talk about consiparacies, cosmic beings

back on topic : they like to talk about cosmic conspiracies and ultradimensions. They tend to gather on the same forums.

-1% totally "disbelieve" in UFOs, most of time they have a strong scientific basis. They think it's always possible to reduce an UFO case to a known physical or sociological fact and they will never admit a sighting has no known explanation. They picture themselves as bright minds shedding lights on a dark world, but they are as bigoted as the previous category. They can do quality investigations though and roam the same forums.

i found all this hard to digest, i assume it's because English is not your first language of choice, correct?

I have absolutely no idea if it's due to the way i phrase things or if your impression is caused by some local grammar mistakes as the only feedback I can get about my english is through Google. And it takes quite a lot of time. So I won't google proof read it in the hope that you will point me what I HAVE DONE WRONG GODDAMNIT !

 

i'm sorry if i came off a bit harsh, it just didn't understand you relating conspiracy theories to the term "cosmic beings", then the mom thing, and the people placement on forums thing, plus the small percentages confused me. your english is actually very good, but it was worth shooting at. percentage signs just confuse me .2% -3%

[Guest Babar]

 

wrong, the French speak English all the time and never dub a movie

 

Believing in aliens is like a religion ( based on nothing but lies and misinterpretations of facts )

 

But governmental/milatry agencies study UFO reports all around the world. And I can assure you they take it very seriously. How do you explain that ?

 

 

UFO != aliens

 

would be stupid not to investigate if an unauthorised object has been spotted, seems pretty standard to me.

and most of the "hot-spots" seem te be close to military bases, so its always interesting for governments from other nations to take a look at these x-files as a form of spying ...

Aliens and other hocus-pocus new age bs are really far fetched imo.

Its good to have an open mind ofcourse, as long as you don't get blinded by todays flood of youtube crap most people use as evidence during drunk discussions in bars.

 

 

So let's observe those youtube craps you mentioned (and i'm not talking about the most viewed videos which only constitue the top of the iceberg). Here are the most recent vids about traingles UFOs:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewXz3rPbtao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqsoPpjBp_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZcZPFcSusU

 

Do you think those are fake ? Personally I don't see wha'st the point in spending time making fake videos if the final result is so unimpressive.

 

Now, a few military cases:

A pyramid-shaped craft was reported to have landed near an American air base at Rendlesham Forest in Suffolk, Britain, on December 27, 1980. Military personnel reported having approached at least one landed craft in the forest and observed it in great detail before it once again took flight. Another craft was observed landing in an open field near the base and then taking off at incredible speed.

Wikipedia

 

You can find the audio recordings and written reports that surrounds this story on the site of the Ministry of Defence (UK).

 

The Belgian UFO wave (early 90s)

 

Two cops see a triangle UFO hovering in the sky then...

After tracking the targets and after receiving a second radar confirmation from the Traffic Center Control at Semmerzake, Glons CRC gave the order to scramble two F-16 fighters from Beauvechain Air Base shortly before midnight

...

Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.

 

Afterward, a belgian colonel made a declaration on TV.

 

UFOs stories are not all lies or hallucinations. They can even be detected/confirmed by radars. And it looks like something intelligent is controlling them. Norwegian scientists even succeeded in changing the behavior of a UFO thanks to a laser (just google "project hessdalen laser" link).

 

 

Of course it says nothing about the extraterrestrial nature of these objects but the ETH(ypothesis) is the best explanation possible. What do you think they are ? American top secret crafts ? Why would they show them off all around the world then ?

[awesomeperson]

I miss epic sightings like the Phoenix Lights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdIdDpJYSOM

[Guest Babar]

I like how the former governor of arizona dealt with this sighting

 

Of all the low down dirty little politicians out there the one that stands out amongst most of them on the subject of discrediting a UFO sighting is Former Gov. Fife Symington.

Not only did he deny seeing the Phoenix Lights he held a news conference in which he made fun of the whole situation (the giggle factor) by having a person in an alien costume come on the news conference with which he (Symington) said "This just goes to show that you guys are entirely too serious" In the alien costume was the governors chief of staff.

 

you can see the conference in this vid, around 3:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XhLOY3ABAQ&feature=related

 

 

and ten years later...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SJXMBHByZY

[gunnar]

[Guest yikes]

its just swamp gas,weather ballons and or secret black ops experimental aircraft

DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE

[vertsk8er419]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPv0XM-3n2g