brian trageskin Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 this is something i've been wondering for a while. how did V/Vm make his strangely pitched "remixes"? as a reminder, a few examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ofp0a-Qwk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0lkXUew6CE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0FHn4VsU6Y which plugin did he use? what's the trick? thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 sounds like a ring mod, or some variant of a ring mod. lots of plugins will do this.... try the one that comes with your DAW, and maybe PiWarp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ring Mod, pitch shifters, possibly some FFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanmcallister Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 ugghhhhh... just... awful... i'd dig it if he did more along the lines of a remix than just stick one effect on it and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 is this guys whole career based around this technique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 is this guys whole career based around this technique? lol. thank god no. well, the first track was a bad example because it definitely sounds like ring modulation, now that you pointed it. i'm very curious about the 2 other ones since i don't see how you could obtain such effect with ring mod. keep the answers coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beariksson Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 is this guys whole career based around this technique? lol. thank god no. well, the first track was a bad example because it definitely sounds like ring modulation, now that you pointed it. i'm very curious about the 2 other ones since i don't see how you could obtain such effect with ring mod. keep the answers coming! it's ring modulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 ok, i've just tried ring mod on said tracks (the originals), and it works more or less. i have to practice a bit. @ cryptowen: pitch shifter - oh yeah, maybe he used that too! i don't know what FFT is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 actually, just by transposing the track to a lower key, and using a ring mod, you kinda obtain the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 actually, just by transposing the track to a lower key, and using a ring mod, you kinda obtain the same effect. but that's not quite it. the trick he uses is a bit different. doesn't this guy post on watmm by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 piiiwaaarp whoa whoa piwarp just ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 do we really care though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 piiiwaaarp whoa whoa piwarp just ignore me ooooooh thanks for reminding me i need to redownload that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSparkle666 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 That's the same trick I used on my Friday remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWDln0jlMU I'll give you a hint: It's not ringmod, and I'm not aware of any vst plugin that can do it readily. Though, I'm sure something something like reaktor or max could pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 my friend asked this a long time ago at a festival, and he told him he had a machine he made called the 'sick love machine' that he used to process all the songs with.. not sure if he was serious, but pretty funny anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7xlh8N33jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 oh my bad that's actually kid 606.. but it was released on their label.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 piiiwaaarp whoa whoa piwarp just ignore me ok, ok! i'll check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 do we really care though? i care. i'm very curious about music production techniques in general, and i'm very ignorant, as you might have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbrmyofr Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Frequency shifting, not pitch shifting. The difference is that pitch moves things up and down in pitch while preserving the frequency ratio, so the music will just sound, for example, an octave higher, or a note or more higher or lower. Frequency shifting moves all the frequencies down or up by the same amount which doesn't preserve the regular musical ratio between frequencies, so it starts to sound unusual and V/VM-ish, it is a similar sound to ring modulation, same technique I think. Modcan have an example of Neil Young being frequency shifted here which sounds like a V/VM remix: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://www.modcan.com/samples/fs/neal%20young.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 That's the same trick I used on my Friday remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWDln0jlMU that's not cough syrup, that's sinicuichi. seriously, it made everything sound just like this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Frequency shifting, not pitch shifting. The difference is that pitch moves things up and down in pitch while preserving the frequency ratio, so the music will just sound, for example, an octave higher, or a note or more higher or lower. Frequency shifting moves all the frequencies down or up by the same amount which doesn't preserve the regular musical ratio between frequencies, so it starts to sound unusual and V/VM-ish, it is a similar sound to ring modulation, same technique I think. Modcan have an example of Neil Young being frequency shifted here which sounds like a V/VM remix: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://www.modcan.com/samples/fs/neal%20young.mp3 the vocals sound in part like the distorted second part of the music and words interview by richard d james: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSparkle666 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Frequency shifting, not pitch shifting. The difference is that pitch moves things up and down in pitch while preserving the frequency ratio, so the music will just sound, for example, an octave higher, or a note or more higher or lower. Frequency shifting moves all the frequencies down or up by the same amount which doesn't preserve the regular musical ratio between frequencies, so it starts to sound unusual and V/VM-ish, it is a similar sound to ring modulation, same technique I think. Ring modulation and frequency shifting are the same process. The difference is that with frequency shifting you just remove one of the two sidebands produced by ring modulation. So, it's like one half of a ring modulated signal. That's not what V/Vm is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 lol this is awesome, all hail the ringmod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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