sheatheman Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 New plan: Get tenure and go on sabbatical as quickly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 maybe i could pull a hugo schwyzer - fuck over minorities in an effort to get more twitter likes, have sex with my students, get into a hit and run DWI while under the influence of massive amounts of klonopin, then use my tenure status to blackmail my school into giving me a disability retirement for mental health issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Every time I tell my wife that it's basically part time she glares at me. She is teaching 3 classes. I'm just saying that it could be part time. If I teach english comp/creative writing once I finish my mfa, I will show all of you. I will grade a paper a minute. Teaching k-12 is much worse. It consumes much more of your life, but may be rewarding enough both in financial and moral take to make up for it. I don't really care about the pope that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 wait shit that would make me an awful person oops Every time I tell my wife that it's basically part time she glares at me. She is teaching 3 classes. I'm just saying that it could be part time. If I teach english comp/creative writing once I finish my mfa, I will show all of you. I will grade a paper a minute. Teaching k-12 is much worse. It consumes much more of your life, but may be rewarding enough both in financial and moral take to make up for it. I don't really care about the pope that much. not so sure about "financial," haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 A friend of mine got a degree in sound recording technology, tried for about a month to get a job in that field, copied my idea and subbed for a few months, then was hired as a 4th grade teacher starting at 45k/year. Sounds like a better deal than spending another 40k on gradschool and making 11k adjuncting. But adjunct professors are an esoteric bunch. The social points are well worth it. You can get into all kinds of clubs and stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's incredible. Where I'm from, unless you're a senior lecturer you earn about 400 euro a month (a two bedroom flat is like 600-800 euro a month), although of course you only teach three or so classes a week, but still... Senior lecturers who do research etc. do get a reasonable pay, though, but nothing outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's incredible. Where I'm from, unless you're a senior lecturer you earn about 400 euro a month (a two bedroom flat is like 600-800 euro a month), although of course you only teach three or so classes a week, but still... Senior lecturers who do research etc. do get a reasonable pay, though, but nothing outstanding. Huh that's funny - this website must be lying to us about what lecturers make: http://www.eui.eu/ProgrammesAndFellowships/AcademicCareersObservatory/AcademicCareersbyCountry/Spain.aspx#GrossSalaries Now admittedly those salaries are not great, but certainly better than 400 euro/month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That's incredible. Where I'm from, unless you're a senior lecturer you earn about 400 euro a month (a two bedroom flat is like 600-800 euro a month), although of course you only teach three or so classes a week, but still... Senior lecturers who do research etc. do get a reasonable pay, though, but nothing outstanding. Huh that's funny - this website must be lying to us about what lecturers make: http://www.eui.eu/ProgrammesAndFellowships/AcademicCareersObservatory/AcademicCareersbyCountry/Spain.aspx#GrossSalaries Now admittedly those salaries are not great, but certainly better than 400 euro/month... No, no, these figures are for our equivalents of senior lecturers, who are public servants. Readers/regular lecturers usually earn about 400 euro a month, and aren't public servants, so they can sack them anytime (and they must sack a large amount of them every semester now that the situation is not good.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 http://rrhh.umh.es/files/2010/03/TABLA-RETRIBUCIONES-PDI-20131.pdf Most people teaching at our universities are on the lowest category and work the least hours (sometimes the class starts at, say, 8, and some teachers won't arrive until 11 because that way they don't have to pay them as much, or they'll only come during the second half of the semester, or one day every two weeks, etc.) On the table I'm posting (which is the salary range of UMH, a public university in, I believe, Valencia) the figures for such positions range from about 255 euro to about 640, which is pretty standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm confused - because I wouldn't go to a university and accept lectures from anyone who didn't have a Ph.D. Are these teaching assistants? Or do they actually teach full courses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm confused - because I wouldn't go to a university and accept lectures from anyone who didn't have a Ph.D. Are these teaching assistants? Or do they actually teach full courses? No, universities around here are radically different from what they're like in English-speaking countries. The government demands a new curriculum for those people who want a degree in X, and stipulate I II III should be taught according to ABC. The doctors who head each department in each university get together and draft a curriculum for X where I II III are the subjects and are taught according to ABC, and then each particular course is assigned to a lecturer, which might or might not be a doctor, and who in principle develops it as he pleases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 So you don't have to have a phd or be close to getting one to teach classes at a university? That's...well yeah that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 So you don't have to have a phd or be close to getting one to teach classes at a university? That's...well yeah that's different. It has to be said, though, that bachelor's degrees used to be comparable to master's degrees before the Bologna educational reforms which sort of anglified things. For example it took longer to get a bachelor's degree back then than it does now, so someone with a master's was already someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 but the main point here is that fox news sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 but the main point here is that fox news sucks yeah everyone see the "st nick is white, jesus is white too" debacle? (CNN makes a mini debacle themselves...check out Daily Show for proper dressing down) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 and then Fox News' re-fail Now claiming it was "humor" and claiming they're the victims ("big targets") in all of this oh god the spin is making me dizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Just stop looking at that crap! It's kinda like watching an accident happening. You know you 'want' to look at something which you don't 'want' to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 i'm not normally much of a fan of the daily show, but their takedown of megyn kelly's idiocy was pretty on point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN8c4L6RsSY gets good around 3 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Just stop looking at that crap! *searches for perfect Sun Tzu quote* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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