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honestly, i feel like the script probably suffered from too many rewrites. the movie does a lot of things correctly in terms of philosophy and symbolism, but the actual storytelling is done poorly. in my mind, one of the few things that could explain that is someone working on the film for so long that they become "blind" to what they are actually creating. they craft these little plots that are brilliant but can't weave them together correctly to make a quality final product. i don't hate the film. i can't hate a film. i'm disappointed with the film. Hoodz! I completely agree with all of the plot buggery that you noticed and I am sure there is more to the confusion than you listed. I hated the Holloway character as well and there was no character development on anyone cept for Dr Shaw's character and David, coincidence? The scientists were crazy silly and stupidly written. The two fellows who were left behind totally got lost and were just asking to be attacked by creatures. Dumbest scientists I have seen in any film in a long time. There should have been more explanation of the mission before hand. The dust storm scene was confusing and not very clearly sequenced. I thought Shaw got knocked inside of Prometheus and not the outside. I do however think David contaminated Holloway because Weyland was telling him to be more extreme in his experiments. *the scene with David and Vickers arguing* Contamination protocols were severely ignored, cept by Vickers. Yes this was annoying. Holloway was a machismo dick though, so he might be dumb enough to see a worm coming out of his eyeball and still be dumb enough to man-up and go into the ship with his bros and his girl and rescue the dumbest scientists ever. lol The last Engineer should not have had a personal vendetta against Shaw. It did seem silly except that it leads to the last scene, which I enjoyed a lot more the second time seeing. SO my point is that I do agree with all of your gripes and some of Robbie's, the exception with Robbie's beef being the whole design of the film. It is my favourite aspect besides Fassbender being amazing as David. The reason I enjoy this film more than most of you is because I have a flaw or a gift for seeing the bigger picture and while I was watching this film, both times, my imagination would take over in some parts. I was and am still thinking about all of the exploits of the engineers, who could have made them and why they would want to wipe us out. This intrigues me beyond most myth as it ties in with Gnostic beliefs, ancient myths, and the fact that perhaps the human race has fucked up our planet royally and need a reboot. So with all of its flaws, the over arcing storyline and the look of the film fascinate me enough to look past plot holes. The only thing I can think of as to why they left so many plot holes in, besides being written by several writers, was that Ridley wanted to make the team of scientists seem stupid and unworthy of being in the presence of the Engineers. If that was the point, he and the writers succeeded. A film with this much dough spent on it should have had a scoured script assuring continuity and believability. I think I could have just seen the opening sequence and been satisfied with that as a short film. David made the rest of the film for me.

RIdley splains himself, will make you hate it more or perhaps not as much. http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ridley-scott-prometheus-interview/8232

The detail in the film is staggering. Did you notice the giant mound was an old H R Giger design from Dune or the original Alien, I believe?

The whole entire scene with David in the control/sleep chamber room is amazingly beautiful. One of the coolest things I have ever seen on film. In IMAX 3D, I felt like I was inside the coolest navigation system room that has been conceived to date. I also loved the flute. Why shouldn't sound be a component in high tech? I am now thinking that the last scene was indeed the queen from Aliens. I also love the Space Jockeys. So much Gnosticism. I love me some demiurge action. PKD would have loved this film. And the idea of them using that black goo on the entire earth is fucking nuts to think about! Most animals would become xenomorphic. AHHHH!

You all need to stop having such high expectations and relax. Your highest hopes will never be met unless you are the one creating. Just saw this a second time and I enjoyed it even more this time. Every film has plot holes. They are called edits. David is an amazing character and amazingly portrayed. THIS THREAD IS ENRAGING! last post

Didn't mean to sound like I was telling Robbie to be better than Ridley Scott, or need 100 million dollars to be able to make a film. I was thinking purely. If the story or ideas are sound enough, a great film can be made for not that much money. Some of my favourite films were made on a limited budget, yours being some of them Mirezzi. I hope to someday make a film that I can be proud of. and the first scene?

hey check it, this guy nitpicks it with a positive spin, WTF??? How strange of him to not hate this film? http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

He is not a troll Mirezzi. One of ,my friends from way back on here. His opinions are real not just antagonizing. SQUEE, this statement is fucking bullshit. Prometheus looked so much better than the thing prequel, there is no comparison. The script was at least three times better as well. Yeah I am with Compson. Saying anything negative before seeing a film, unless the trailer is completely atrocious, which none of the Prometheus trailers are, is a bit wacky. Whith the Phantom Menace, I just remember the trailers being very ambiguous. Not like the UK Prometheus trailers where they give away plot points. No, not at all. I'm not sure, gonna have to watch the film to gauge something like that Exactly, no one should be able to review or speculate on an entire film based on trailers. That is the point of most trailers, to get you to come see the film. It is not the film itself. So by reviewing trailers as the film, people are being ridiculous. Did you read the fake scrpt. Because I think the one that leaked wasn't real. Best worst review ever. Indeed. I haven't read Hoodie's nitpicking but I will eventually. All of you are picking this film apart to death. I have problems with it as well but I can safely say that I have never seen this story on film and that I enjoyed a lot of it. The closest piece of writing I can compare the ideas to is At The Mountains of Madness by Lovecraft and the Chariot of the Gods by Von Dänikenwho ripped off this book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Morning_of_the_Magicians in which the show Ancient Aliens rips off every time it is on. This film is not nearly as bad as you all are making it out to be and with further watchings I am pretty sure I will enjoy it more, simply for David's character and all of the buck wild nasty horror sequences on the planet. I saw it IMAX 3D, so the sound was amazing. The visuals are amazing. The first shot of the film was beautiful, in a Lovecraftian, Olaf Stapledon, Arthur C Clarke kind of way. Maybe you all just need to stop expecting films to be as good as you want them to be. I know you are writing scripts Robbie. Make better films instead of getting upset over the ones being made. Lots of mythical ideas here that I enjoyed. The part I did not enjoy really was the fact that I think the whole film was a set up for a sequel. And I think it is safe to say that Guillermo del Toro can still make At The Mountains of Madness and not have it look or being anything like Prometheus. The only thing in common is speculation on who or what might have created us. This film is not perfect. Nothing is. Get over it. It is a lot better than the Phantom Menace. Prometheus 7.5/10

the square root of negative one causes everything to be uncertain. D-503 is profoundly disturbed by the concept of the square root of −1 — which is the basis for imaginary numbers (imagination being deprecated by the One State).

And what dost thou thinketh? Hope you have the a decent translation and not the one that is all in Bible speak. Destroy laws, make your own way, the spirit of gravity binding you to this world is misleading.

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yeah I didn't even attempt to finish 'Nausea', I still own it but I have thought about throwing it away. Over-analytical, thought spirals meant to drive a person mad. Fuck you and your depressed emotional state Sartre. Give me Roald Dahl any day over that pretentious shit. although Sartre did say, "Terrorism is the atomic weapon of the masses." I like that quote.

did it make you nauseous?

they loves them some magick Frater Achad's star. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stansfeld_Jones BOOM! Knowledge...

Mannard. can't wait for the truth!!!! Come on Tool, BoC, and Aphex! This is the year. Let's do this! I was at the Dallas show in '94 when Maynard announced that his friend Bill Hicks had just passed away, and Maynard also mentioned he was sickened by this so much so that our gig wasn't going to be that great. It was great. The Flaming Lips and Failure opened for them. I nearly died in the mosh pit. Wayne Coyne was wrapped in christmas lights. #hardasstoolfannotassociatedwithtypicalidiotictoolfans Christians and Tool fans have a lot in common, most of them suck at being fans of what they love.

I have 'Master of Space and Time' by Rucker and need to read it. Will do soon. I hear it is amazing. Yeah, check out 'Dr Adder' iep, ir anyone that loves cyberpunk/sci-fi. Was controversial at the time, published like seven years after it was written due to it being considered too violent, it is brilliant and extreme and has aged well/become relevant considering where we are now as a culture. The epilogue by PKD in it is awesome. He became friends with K W Jeter b/c of this novel being sent to him while Jeter had written while in college. 'Dr Adder' was his first novel and he wanted his literary hero to read it. K W Jeter is Kevin in 'VALIS'.

zaphod, this book is mind bending: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Adder

truth! and welcome aboard

thanks! Sounds like what I love in lit. Realism bores the shit out of me unless it has a slant on it, one in which I have never experienced first hand. I do not read or watch films to experience what I already do on a daily basis. It baffles me that people want more of this reality.

sir yes sir! I have 'The Three Imposters' but have yet to read it, that story might be in this collection.

I started this one after I read 'The Great God Pan', which I enjoyed a lot, but 'THOD' was such a different story I had to put it down. I will try again, was worried it would just meander the whole time. Thanks for the info.

beard pinching > 'Prometheus' looking rubbish