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    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted · Edited by fletcher

    Short extension being sought.

    Which is good for Brexit. Possibly still time for a #indyref2 in there, and mv3 / 4 and maybe a general election and a holiday plus mv5 and a couple of confidence votes.

     

    Check our democracy out Trump, we got dis

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    The EU is it's own enemy.  Needing unanimous voting for any decision puts vast pressure (as you have already pointed out) on the "smaller" economic countries who wish to try and exert their own opinions.  And if they step out of line, well, austerity is still being applied and could be recalculated.....

     

    I don't think we would be "storming it" if we left with no deal.  We tried to get a deal through, we tried negotiating, the EU have said they will not negotiate any further.  A lot of our MPs do not like the deal that was got.  I think Maybot did a good job of getting ANY deal together from the EU, even if its not perfect.

     

    The EU obviously do not want to appear weak or too flexible otherwise it could signal others wishing to leave soon.  I wonder who would be next?

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    For example, back in 2016, Credit Suisse forecast we would have 7% unemployment by now thanks to Brexit, where in fact we are below 4% by todays figures.

     

    The problem with forecasting is that its all a gamble with smoke and crystal balls.

    We really don't know whats going to happen.
    Weather forecasters cannot always accurately tell you what happened yesterday, let alone next week.

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

     

    remaining at this point would just be fucking annoying. i cant even deal with having to read brexiteer media frothing at the mouth at how its a flagrant insult to the will of the people for the next fucking 5 years, and blaming every single bad thing that happens to britain on remaining. i want no deal now, just so we have a chance at reform.

    yeah it really wouldn't be half as annoying as the country facing massive financial decline, huge job losses, the poorest becoming even poorer and russia having even less reason to stop breaking international law and using weapons of mass destruction in another sovereign territory.

     

    there would be no reform from brexit other than a loosening of regulations, worse employment laws and less money for 99% of the population.

     

    to believe anything else at this point is wilful ignorance.

     

    also, don't read brexiteer media perhaps?

     

     

    Is the BBC brexiteer media?

     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47622415

     

    If unemployment is down again, unemployment laws will remain as they are (or even be strengthened), and a return to British Standards (or an adapatation of current EU law)

     

    Sorry if I am willfully ignorant, I am a glass half full kinda guy. 

    Our country will not descend into some Mad Max style feudal state where we are scavenging for supplies. Things will of course change, and no doubt not all for the best.  I voted REMAIN in order to keep the boat from rocking, but we are leaving so lets deal with it.

     

     

    PS I hate discussing all this brexit batshit, especially on messageboards

     

    :beer:

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    pressure would be brought to bear on any dissenting member states

     

    The EU superstate with its throat hold grab on the struggling countries within, who try to cling on to any thread of money or political leverage that they can.

     

    Reports of impending EU-wide recession keep cropping up, remain is better for the EU

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    "Following the votes, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn reiterated his support for a further referendum after earlier ordering his MPs not to vote for one."

     

    This is why i hate our current crop of politicians. Why can't they just do as they say. Assholes.

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    The people calling for a general erection clearly havn't been looking at how Corbyn and his comrades have been handling their shadow duties. Pretty sure Milliband would have handled this better.

     

    I need some new voices / party that I can get behind.

    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

    Who started this referendum? Maybe the lack of information to the general public was by design. With the facts the public was presented with they voted hard Brexit. The rest of the mountains of debate came later

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    Brexit :(

    in General Banter

    Posted

     

    It's narrowing down now, May's deal is very likely to be rejected again. So we're probably looking at an Article 50 extension (and reasonable chance of a 2nd ref after that) or no deal.

    Who would you pick to be PM?

     

     

    None of them.

     

    This is the main reason I voted Remain - I didn't believe our political system would be agile enough to pull off a "satisfactory" Brexit (whatever that is).  Even though I saw some positives from leaving the EU, the potential FUDGE outweighed it all.

     

    And here they are, 2.5 years later, heckling and hollering at each other and having to work late because nothing has been sorted.  I have close to zero support for our current political climate and the parties that sit among it.

    Time for some big change - although if that means another ref and staying put for the time being then sure.

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