J3FF3R00 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 er, one of what? A penis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 knob twiddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Idrn Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Creamware MiniMax ASB. even if it doesnt sound as good as the others (pah!), the mahogany finished/chunky knobbed design will give the illusion of it sounding ten times better. even those buttons - the thick matt plastic clicking down, the red led standing to attention. a proud sexy addition to any setup. on a related midi controller note, i saw this baby today: only a midi controller, but the sexiest midi controller ive ever seen. unfortunately you can only buy it in a package with the arturia analog factory (given youve already got a crack of the cs80 and modular). bit pissed too because apparantly its made by cme, and i bought a cme mkey about 6 months ago (needed some cheap extra octaves). i also remember seeing their UF range and thinking "why the fuck dont people make more midi controllers like that?", check: shame i dont have the money for either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 so are you after a mono or poly? VA, real analogue, something else...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Out of the three listed, I would say the evolver is the best choice. If your budget is up to £400-500 though, theres loads of possibilities. A few that haven't been mentioned: SE ATC-1 Pro-one Waldorf Pulse That new Dave Smith I cant remember the name of... I'm about to put my Cheetah MS6 (w/midi cc mod) up for sale. Probably not what you're looking for, but a really great, underrated synth. Same curtis chips as the Matrix, but unlike anything really. I'm sure you've thought of this, but if you're going all hardware, factor in some money for some effects. Ensoniq DP4+/DP2 would be my choice, maybe a couple of boutique pedals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Theres a Behringer knockoff of the Boss Dimension C (real analogue, very similar circuit and sound), that costs next to nothing. Probably the most cost-effective upgrade for a non-chorus (or non-stereo) synth around right now. http://www.behringer.com/CC300/index.cfm?lang=ENG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimi Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 evolver kinda sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 i had a basstation back in the day. was fun at the time but there's much cooler stuff than that now. get a 2nd hand clavia micromodular. i'm sure you could make a patch with it that duplicates the basstation, plus you can do a million other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm about to put my Cheetah MS6 (w/midi cc mod) up for sale. Probably not what you're looking for, but a really great, underrated synth. Same curtis chips as the Matrix, but unlike anything really. It's multitimbral right? Does it have multiple/assignable outputs? How many presets / memory locations? Any patch librarians / programmer software / freeware patch collections for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandi_B Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Get the Dave Smith Mohpo. It just came out. It's based on the prophet 08 that is a new age take on the prophet, but has a much more flexible sound and has awesome sub osc's! Listen to some sound demos, i'm gonna get one soon. Here's 2 decent (although cheesy) demos: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://www.dsisynth.com/audio/mopho_demos/sonofa.mp3 Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://www.dsisynth.com/audio/mopho_demos/...o_sequences.mp3 I used to have an evolver, and I would love a poly evolver, but with just one voice, the bass was a bit difficult to get out of it, and the interface was a headache. http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/mopho/ The mopho comes with a great free software editor too, but people are saying editing from the front panel is pretty nice. OH and it has the sequencers that can be gated and triggered by the keys like the evolver does. It's a 100% analog signal path too, unlike the evolver (which I don't care about but some people do). If you don't get that I second a Matrix 1000. Especially over the evolver. Although it's best programmed by software. BUt the sound is awesome! ps - they've actually got a mopho used at analog haven right now for 320 http://www.analoguehaven.com/used/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Not knocking the MoPho at all, just wanted to say that that it ALSO (and the Prophet 08) has the same voice chips as the Matrix 1000. Without the Evolver's digital weirdness, it is essentially a 1 voice Matrix 1000 for around the same cost. You would pick a MoPho over a Matrix if you valued the inbuilt sequencer and the hands-on programming, I guess. If you are thinking purely in terms of grunt, it's gotta be the Matrix for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Out of the three listed, I would say the evolver is the best choice. If your budget is up to £400-500 though, theres loads of possibilities. A few that haven't been mentioned: SE ATC-1 Pro-one Waldorf Pulse That new Dave Smith I cant remember the name of... I'm about to put my Cheetah MS6 (w/midi cc mod) up for sale. Probably not what you're looking for, but a really great, underrated synth. Same curtis chips as the Matrix, but unlike anything really. I'm sure you've thought of this, but if you're going all hardware, factor in some money for some effects. Ensoniq DP4+/DP2 would be my choice, maybe a couple of boutique pedals... cheers, I'll check out those synths you mentioned....i do have an effects rack already and a couple of cheap effects pedals too - will probably get some more though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Not knocking the MoPho at all, just wanted to say that that it ALSO (and the Prophet 08) has the same voice chips as the Matrix 1000. Without the Evolver's digital weirdness, it is essentially a 1 voice Matrix 1000 for around the same cost. You would pick a MoPho over a Matrix if you valued the inbuilt sequencer and the hands-on programming, I guess. If you are thinking purely in terms of grunt, it's gotta be the Matrix for the money. yeah, the sequencer is a big selling point for me - i like to send a clock signal from my multitrack to a MIDI thru box, then have that split off to all my other stuff to keep it all in sync - when i press play on the multitrack, everything starts and is in sync and ready to be recorded into the multitrack...anyway, nice to have things with built in sequencers so they can all sit there happily playing there own little patterns in time with each other.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest countchocula Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Overview The Prophet '08 Synthesizer Module is a tabletop "knobby" module with all of the features and controls of the Prophet '08 Keyboard (minus the keyboard, of course) in an even more compact enclosure. With real analog oscillators, famed Curtis low-pass filters, and analog VCAs, the Prophet '08 is capable of reproducing the familiar sounds of its legendary predecessors. But modern features like a greatly expanded modulation matrix and additional modulation sources—like three envelopes and four LFOs per voice—take it way beyond the vintage gear and make this a worthy and unique addition to the Prophet family tree. Features include a gated 16 x 4 step sequencer, arpeggiator, split or stacked key modes with separate stereo outputs per layer, and rack ears for optional rack-mounting. The Prophet '08 module can also be used as an expander to increase the polyphony of another Prophet '08—keyboard or module—to 16 voices. The only affordable, full-featured polysynth with a 100% analog signal path. Classic, real analog sound—including legendary Curtis analog low-pass filters—married to a modern feature set. Small footprint, huge sound. Tons of knobs for direct, real-time editing and performance. Used as an expander, increases polyphony of another Prophet '08 to 16 voices. so it has a step sequencer but the downside is......$1,499.97 ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm about to put my Cheetah MS6 (w/midi cc mod) up for sale. Probably not what you're looking for, but a really great, underrated synth. Same curtis chips as the Matrix, but unlike anything really. It's multitimbral right? Does it have multiple/assignable outputs? How many presets / memory locations? Any patch librarians / programmer software / freeware patch collections for it? 6 part mult-timbral, which is pretty unique for an 80's polysynth. Except just the one mono output, which obviously limits the usefulness, but its still a feature worth having, even if its just for some of the weird stacked sounds you can get out of it. 320 Rom, 96 user and then 64 'performance' memories, essentially for the multitimbral feature. I'm sure there are editors available, though I never used one. I started making my own midi device panel for Cubase as my MS6 has a cc mod, but in the end I just relied on my midi controller and templates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 now seriously considering the creamware pro 12 - sequential circuits prophet 5 clone....sound on sound review is very positive.... oh god i just don't know! i would have got a mopho but no cunt's got one in stock and i'd have to wait two or three weeks....fuck that....gone off the evolver now - don't like the interface that much and it's looks a bit cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv_party Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I really liked the virus c I had for awhile and got some wild sounds out of a ti recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 just bought the creamware pro 12...couldn't resist the wood panelling, chunky buttons and plethora of knobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sysex Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I've got a Waldorf Blofeld Desktop I'm trying to get rid of which has all the Q oscillator models, excellent comb filters and ppg wave low pass. but the evolver is prolly a better choice based on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 buy a nice piece of furniture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 I've got a Waldorf Blofeld Desktop I'm trying to get rid of which has all the Q oscillator models, excellent comb filters and ppg wave low pass. but the evolver is prolly a better choice based on this thread. the decision's been made and the die cast - bought a creamware pro 12 to be delivered on tuesday. can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 evolver kinda sucks this statement only emphasizes your inability to use one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 jesus christ I've spent a lot of money today....just bought a new pair of sneakers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 how much is the wooden one? £400 - £500 wtf and it's VA. just get a plugin for nothing. That video is fucking awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantsonmyhead Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 evolver kinda sucks this statement only emphasizes your inability to use one actually it's kind of true i oogled the crap out of being able to modulate everything off each other then when i had borrowed seans poly i noticed something i never had before....the evolver kind of sounds terrible it's shrill and thin not saying i couldn't make shrill thin space sounds and creepy pads but i had to coax and plea so much just to get some decent bass out of the thing honestly if you've been lookin at a waldorf q i'd go to it or some other dave smith thing like a pro-one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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