TwiddleBot Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Remember when industrial was about pushing the envelope musically, performance-wise? Anybody come across any exciting new artists these days? Most of my friends who listen to industrial listen to what is essentially rave music with the only real dividing factor being the use of 'scary' samples and goth imagery on the covers, thrown in alongside incredibly static and boring production that isn't a fraction as innovative as the stuff cevin key was doing oh 25 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Coil and Throbbing Gristle. You really don't need too much more than that. Essentials from Coil: 1987 Horse Rotorvator 1991 Love's Secret Domain 1995 ELpH - Worship the Glitch 1998 Time Machines 1999 Astral Disaster 1999 Musick to Play in the Dark 1 2000 Musick to Play in the Dark 2 2001 Constant Shallowness Leads to Evil 2002 The Remote Viewer 2004 Black Antlers Essentials from Throbbing Gristle: 1977 The Second Annual Report 1978 DOA - The Third and Final Report 1979 20 Jazz Funk Greats 2004 TG Now 2007 Part Two - The Endless Not 2009 The Third Mind Movements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest margaret thatcher Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 maybe throw some caberet voltaire in there for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Listen to Laibach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Some old, some new, some obvious, some not obvious. You might like some of it. Sutcliffe Jugend Atrax Morgue Con-dom Genocide Lolita RUBBISH Bloodyminded Ramleh Prurient The Grey Wolves Skullflower Slogun SPK Genocide Organ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiddleBot Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 thanks so far, some new names to check out.... and yes, i'm a very big fan of coil+tg, no industrial collection is complete without them. i like cabaret voltaire up until the early 80s.. 2x45, johnny yesno... all delish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think this album got overlooked by a lot of people , listens and appreciate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dial Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 If you wanna hear some obscure industrial music you should check out Cold Meat Industry (label) .. Especially Brighter Death Now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Coil and Throbbing Gristle. You really don't need too much more than that. Essentials from Coil: 1987 Horse Rotorvator 1991 Love's Secret Domain 1995 ELpH - Worship the Glitch 1998 Time Machines 1999 Astral Disaster 1999 Musick to Play in the Dark 1 2000 Musick to Play in the Dark 2 2001 Constant Shallowness Leads to Evil 2002 The Remote Viewer 2004 Black Antlers Essentials from Throbbing Gristle: 1977 The Second Annual Report 1978 DOA - The Third and Final Report 1979 20 Jazz Funk Greats 2004 TG Now 2007 Part Two - The Endless Not 2009 The Third Mind Movements yes indeed. thats pretty much what you need from throbbing gristle, but my coil list would go- horse rotorvator gold is the metal with the broadest shoulders loves secret domain black light district time machines musick to play in the dark pt 1 the remote viewer black antlers live 4 the ape of naples the new backwards id say about 95% of "industrial" is shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 the original poster wasn't asking about new industrial music that follows similar principals? if not i'd recommend Esplendor Geometrico ( drum machine harshness before EBM even existed, mostly instrumental) Etant Donnes Storm Bugs (put out one record but its innovative as hell) Severed Heads (early pre 1986 'city slab horror' and 'since the accident' two of the most creative forward thinking industrial albums ever) Nocturnal Emissions Zoviet France Doxa Sinistra (started around the same time as Skinny Puppy, equally unique) Klinik (probably the best EBM act, and one of the first) Fad Gadget (proto Depeche Mode mute records co-owner gothic synth pop stuff, very ahead of it's time) Asmus Tietchens (early pre 1983) Psychic TV (early selections like Dreams Less Sweet or Pagan Day) Throbbing Gristle - A Journey Through a Body (their last album before they got back together in 2004) Coil's earlier stuff falls into the category of industrial for me but the later period stuff reminds me more of Current 93 and pagan ballady stuff, that has linkages to industrial music as well i suppose. 1979 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvwZqMRMIzE&feature=related 1981 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLwdYKfhEk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMAw21l4_k 1982 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRplSvgx738 1983 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hc2bRwj7Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbtU5A5tWyM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBD-pUO4GI 1984 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT6YCUSX930 1986 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ArFjk2528I 1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoHv5zBB0Nw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Person90 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Esplendor Geometrico ( drum machine harshness before EBM even existed, mostly instrumental) Fad Gadget (proto Depeche Mode mute records co-owner gothic synth pop stuff, very ahead of it's time) Asmus Tietchens (early pre 1983) I've heard that Esplendor Geometrico has some material that is simialr to Pansonic, Do you know what albums are like this? I second Asmus Tietchens' Biotop release, really more like proto techno, and Fad Gadget is criminally overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 similar to Pan Sonic, hmmm i'd say any of their stuff before 1985 (when they started using sampled drum machines) sounds very minimal very raw and very synthesis driven. I'm personally in love with this record label called Vinyl on Demand, that puts out insanely large vinyl boxsets of old unreleased industrial music , the 4xLP Esplendor set they put out is phenomenal, as is the Severed Heads set called 'Adenoids' if you can find a rip of this - http://www.discogs.com/Esplendor-Geometrico-1980-1989-First-Decade/master/104045 somewhere i highly recommend it Vinyl-on-demandProfile: Vinyl only label run by Frank Maier and specialized in late 70s and early 80s industrial, noise, avantgarde, as well as minimal synth, wave, goth releases. Mostly taken from extremely limited tape publications, often with exclusive bonus tracks and unpublished extras. http://www.discogs.com/label/Vinyl-on-demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Coil's earlier stuff falls into the category of industrial for me but the later period stuff reminds me more of Current 93 and pagan ballady stuff, that has linkages to industrial music as well i suppose. i dont know, i think much of the later stuff is just as challenging as their earlier releases. there is indeed some current 93 like material, but releases like 'constant shallowness leads to evil', 'black antlers' and 'the new backwards' are just as "industrial" as their earlier stuff. plus their live material is very challenging to say the least... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpjYcctqldI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHIlBk5vbVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMlJ7r8TBB0&feature=related what would you recommend from etant donnes? ive been meaning to check them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 the new backwards is fucking excellent, i think it's honestly because of the lack of Jhon on it that makes me like it so much. His vocals on later stuff im just not able to handle. that track you posted up top has awesome backing sounds/music but the vocals ruin it for me. The 2 other tracks you posted i love though. My relationship with Coil is very complicated, as is my relationship with Psychic TV. re: Etant Donnes this release - http://www.discogs.com/Etant-Donnes-Tapes-1977-1983/master/11204 is amazing, again it's on Vinyl on Demand, probably my favorite record label of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 PIGFACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 the new backwards is fucking excellent, i think it's honestly because of the lack of Jhon on it that makes me like it so much. His vocals on later stuff im just not able to handle. that track you posted up top has awesome backing sounds/music but the vocals ruin it for me. fair enough. his vocals initialy ruined it for me too, but after a while i just kind of started to key in to the whole unhinged vibe of it all. making the pyschedelic patterns out of his fucked up eye was a stroke of genius (the work of christopherson, no doubt). but that being said, there are some balance vocals on some later releases that i still have a hard time with (mostly the seasonal releases and musick part 2).. when hes 'on' hes brilliant, but when hes off its a bit of a mess. a testament to the experimental nature of coil i suppose. thanks, im gonna check that etant donnes album out. this one looks promising as well> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6OwQjTv54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 some of the early Nocturnal Emission stuff fits perfectly into the whole 'minimal-wave' resurgance. Nigel also did some really experimental noisy stuff, but i'm resdiscovering a lot of very poppy electronic music like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-VYK2f2lc&feature=PlayList&p=8C1E901EB758E247&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=26 this one is from around the same time but almost pure noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcKW8306I24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiddleBot Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 some new names to poke through here, thanks! what pisses me off is that i missed these guys last time they came around and now they probably aren't going to tour north america again. just too much of a pain to fly when bringing random metallic objects with you i guess, can't imagine the hassle trying to explain that you are just a musician, not a terrorist, to overzealous border guards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ4Q9_bDwLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ominous Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5FysALDNDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCGF3PPXmk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 The genre hasn't made anything new since the mid 90s. With that said, check out Cubanate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Snog is pretty good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0qJQ0_4eFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nullsleep Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Great thread. Awepittance: Appreciate the list of recommendations that you posted. Some nice stuff in there that I wasn't familiar with before. And just to reiterate, FAD GADGET. Frank Tovey, you were a fucking genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 anyone have an opinion on boyd rice (NON)? i guess hes usally lumped into the industrial genre. i know hes pretty despised in some circles for his fascist/racist views. been digging this track a ton (embed disabled. but click it, its a good track)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pyZ-jwFd8k and this is interesting enough- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BScC9-9zMnY&feature=related however, im not too sure about this kind of thing here- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaqAl4mjK8w&a=m7AkKJNWPbE&playnext_from=ML and has anyone mentioned whitehouse? they initially gained my attention because peter sotos, the infamous 'trangressive' author was once a member. for the most part, they bore me, but every once in a while ill find myself sampling some of their stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Rkzka2b8s&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SecondaryCell Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Early Gridlock. Also, something obscure: Dessau (from here in Nashville, main man John Elliott is a friend of mine) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv33fBUNuZI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 interesting industrial? (see 1994) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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