kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 grabbed this off mvgroup.org - it's the best documentary i've watched in a long time. 4 parts - melody, rhythm, bass, and harmony - of which i've watched the first two so far. melody covers pentatonic scales and mediaeval plainsong, then two-part counterpoint, then modes and the birth of minor/major scales, the blues, and the influence of early american music on the rest of the world. features some early plainsong, mid-period english music, some classical music, blind lemon jefferson, coldplay, dionne warwick, and simon and garfunkel. rhythm covers time signatures, swing and syncopation, polyrhythms, rap, cuban music, and the way that contemporary music fuses all these together. includes stuff from philip glass, handel, dvorak, celtic music, grandmaster flash, roberta flack, stevie wonder, and an awesome version of the brandenburg concerto played on 4 nord leads (!) it's written and presented by howard goodall, an extremely learned musicologist and classical musician. i think it's all on youtube. very, very recommended. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbOWi6f_IM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Definitely have to check this out man. Cheers Kaini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Yeah, this is fantastic jazz. I love this documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 jazz? not to my memory. link or it didn't happen. also everyone should join mvgroup.org. best torrent site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?) anyway it's a great link :sup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 i also recently watched this 4-part history of sacred music - highly recommended as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyITkB7gnbk draws some very interesting parallels between developments in architecture and music. also available on mvgroup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ranky Redlof Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 never seen this, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 What does Jazz mean? Is it sarcasm to call something jazz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 jazz -> jazzband -> -> this particular nugget of information has been posted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 i just meant jazz as in it's been out for quite some time... expanding the boundaries of jazz (free jazz?) anyway it's a great link :sup: It's only jazz if it's been posted to watmm before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 This is super awesome. Much thanks for posting. jazz -> jazzband -> -> this particular nugget of information has been posted before. I like this version (regardless of whether or not you like Mr. Oberst, it's quite impressive): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW0ulJ5QCcw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh my Christ. Permaban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oh my Christ. Permaban. Pfffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 i grabbed the first sacred music this year, and then skimmed and went fuckit and fuck him. soz for being a less than benign git about things, but some things grate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 "I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 "I am sailing" isn't pentatonic. Simplistic and shit though this doc undoubtedly is, it could at least be accurate. The melody is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 no, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee dee dee da dee See edit: missed out a dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 no, it isn't. count the different notes in the melody. five (plus a sixth, which is the first replicated an octave up). pentatonic. edit: actually there's more... it's basically pentatonic though. anyway, i'm going to take howard goodall's word over yours. he knows his shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 got a midi keyboard? Try playing that on the black notes. You'll find that you need to play a B natural. Not pentatonic. C#D#F#F# A#C#D#D# D#C#B NATURAL C#B NATURAL A# and so forth, transposed to any pitch level. p.s. take whatever word you like, I'm still correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 i can go one better. pentatonic is often taken as what is commonly also called the blues scale (minus passing notes). three octaves of the scale you're talking about - the common interpretation of E pentatonic - in guitar tab E|---------------------0- B|-----------------0-3---- G|-------------0-2-------- D|---------0-2------------ A|-----0-2---------------- E|-0-3-------------------- ___E_G_A_B_D_E_G_A_B_D_E but it literally just means 'five tones' or 'five notes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 what on earth is that supposed to be? Why are the black notes grouped in twos only? oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there. and look, i'm a graduate of the Royal College of Music. I know what a feckin pentatonic scale is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 oh i see the ends are cut off. Well I'm still right, the f shouldn't be there. would you like the midi so you can listen to it? http://humphreyplugg.kaen.org/sailing_melody.mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 that was nice, panpipey. Still not pentatonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deep Fried Everything Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 awesome. all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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