goDel Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Speaking of abstract: http://www.theage.co...0810-1im84.html I think you're onto something here. Remember the wedding and how 'cold' it was? People in the streets are mad because of the balcony-kiss. There wasn't enough love for the people to see. And now they're looting the middle class, with the intention to fuck with the upper-class. OK, I thought I was onto something. (at least i tried to understand... O_o?) btw, riots in america? i thought detroit was one big riot for 20 years? or was it longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Has this been posted yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumbo Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Those girls are dropping consonants like they're hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 RICH PEOPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 http://cognitvedisso....com/labellove/ a friend of mine started this up, helping to raise money for the smaller labels affected by the PIAS fire which is cool i suppose though personally i'd give money to te people who lost their houses first, my two cents oh right it doesn't need to be monetary support necessarily, if you're an artist or run a label (i know some of you do) i believe they are going to try to throw a few comps together. or something. i'm not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 If they delay the football this weekend because of this I will go on a one-man riot that will bring down the capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Excellent reminder on riot psychology and crowd behaviour http://mindhacks.com/2011/08/10/riot-psychology/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 people are being unfair on disparraisant. if not already in the criminal element these rioters are mostly poor, uneducated, prospectless and disillusioned. this IS down to politics. simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumbo Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I would add that children born in the UK (or any western country for that matter) to immigrant parents can suffer from an identity crisis. Which coupled with racism and poverty can lead to quite self destructive behaviour and a need to belong. Sometimes gangs fill this need. They lose connection with their heritage, and they don't feel British (or Australian/Canadian/American etc.). I get the feeling that this is the case for a lot of Lebanese kids here, as it was for some Vietnamese kids born from refugee parents during the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 lol: http://photoshoplooter.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 people are being unfair on disparraisant. if not already in the criminal element these rioters are mostly poor, uneducated, prospectless and disillusioned. this IS down to politics. simple as that. Yes, but let's not mix-up the causes (social-political) with the reasons. Unemployment, uneducation and lack of perspectives are what predispose the rioters to riot. The why they are rioting now is pure crowd psychology and opportunism, they have absolutely no political ideology in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stoppit Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 good quote from The Guardian: this is what happens when people don't have anything, when they have their noses constantly rubbed in stuff they can't afford, and they have no reason ever to believe that they will be able to afford it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 people are being unfair on disparraisant. if not already in the criminal element these rioters are mostly poor, uneducated, prospectless and disillusioned. this IS down to politics. simple as that. Yes, but let's not mix-up the causes (social-political) with the reasons. Unemployment, uneducation and lack of perspectives are what predispose the rioters to riot. The why they are rioting now is pure crowd psychology and opportunism, they have absolutely no political ideology in doing so. they are predisposed to this 'opportunism' because of the reasons stated. i know we're not watching young people with a political agenda here, but what i said (and what i think disp was getting at) is that "this IS down to politics." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yeah it is down to politics, but that is different to it being a political act. You could say any theft or murder ever has been a result of a failure of the state to protect people or to prevent people's lives from getting so shitty that they become that desperate, but there are just certain aspects of human nature that you can't eradicate even with the most perfect society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 i said it started as a political act (protest on saturday) and the underlying reasons for it's continuation are social and political. i never meant to imply that it was actually a conscious political act on the rioter's parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 lol oh dear an anarcho-socialist friend of mine is identifying everyone on http://londonrioters.co.uk/identify/ as "a product of the capitalist system" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 i don't feel like continuing to argue this but i'm just gonna say you can't boil this down to one reason. this is my point. al hounos said it pretty well, would these people be rioting as thoroughly if they had jobs? would the riots be spreading as quickly if people didn't feel oppressed, be it economically, or by the police, or etc.? maybe kakapo's right and they're all cunts and richard hammond types but i fail to see how that means there is literally no reason for this, like some of you are saying. didn't you see the picture i posted of a Currys employee that was caught? don't see the point you're making... girl's probably on minimum wage selling expensive aspirational goods she can't afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 lol oh dear an anarcho-socialist friend of mine is identifying everyone on http://londonrioters.co.uk/identify/ as "a product of the capitalist system" a trip to bad korea will do him good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Don't worry guys, I just got told that it's all the immigrants fault. Problem solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 a trip to bad korea will do him good yes, it will illustrate quite clearly how the corrupted ideas of juche and years of iron-fisted and monarchal dictatorship can screw up a country that was doing alright until imperialism str- oh wait he knows all that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hulk Hogan gonna sort it out http://audioboo.fm/boos/434660-hulk-hugan-on-uk-riots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 sounds like BACON MANIA has a FULL PLATE, brother. new favourite phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 a trip to bad korea will do him good yes, it will illustrate quite clearly how the corrupted ideas of juche and years of iron-fisted and monarchal dictatorship can screw up a country that was doing alright until imperialism str- oh wait he knows all that already. juche-like ideas and dictatorships is something every communist adopted, communism doesn't work, period. first time in history where a part of korea was doing alright is toward the end of 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 All the Tottenham rioters have gone and shot themselves in the foot. Now Spurs Vs Everton will be called off so all the locals can't watch it on their nice new tvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 The fact that they've cancelled the football makes me wish there were riots every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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