Amen Lare

From the chat log: 2020-03-30 12:36:45 Autechre: most of these are old as well 2020-03-30 12:37:14 Autechre: not gonna play any of the new live jams, no spoilers 2020-03-30 13:02:43 ivan ooze: can we hear 5 secs of the new album pls? :) 2020-03-30 13:03:10 Autechre: no all the new stuff is under wraps sorry :) 2020-03-30 13:03:38 Autechre: still might release some of these but not in the next batch In fact, he played some of the new (if only seconds), and according to the NYT interview SIGN is post-revamp, PLUS should be too but maybe not these particular tracks. Edit: well, maybe not definitely post-revamp, that's not clear if 2018 was involved

That "best shit ever" 21:28 has similar hats and resemblence of 7FM ic (tho pads are closer to marhide) Pan flute of 20:39 is super close to ecol4 (around 06:00) Some of the unknown cuts definitely hit close to that ecol4, x4 type

If they're the same LP and have similar length +- 1 min... Like M4 Lema is 08:49 and DekDre with 7 FM are 08:42... Anybody tried to play them simultaneously yet?

The thing is there's nobody 7-lettered in Warp roster (Battles, Seefeel) that is prominent enough to be hidden like that. Coincidentally, the album title is 4 letters as was SIGN. So... it could a deliberate subtraction of one letter to not be decoded so easily. Discussed here:

From Japanese label that releases Warp https://www.beatink.com/user_data/warp2020.php Another sceptic bullied away for his audacity! Nice job, fellow subforuminians

Waiting for November 13th currently (tho if it's a release date, then news could be closer in calendar) Notice the green gradient next to orange

I believe it's a byproduct of self-publishing (substack is a self-publishing platform), SFJ is breaking up text blocks to appear lighter on the eyes but has to do it with unlicensed pictures, so he just uses his own.

Agreed, otherwise they would be all over the Jake Muir new album thread in a snap, SIGN messed up priorities

I hear more of Cocteau Twins' Beatrix in known(1), they played it in one of their marathon streams somewhere (and regarding SIGN -- F7 definitely resembles known(1) to me, that was my immediate reaction on the premiere, and not only mine, i recall somebody throwing known(2) comment)

Orange man stupid, media good, analytical

Part of the album title "operation" implied?

Probably, but also encore (which makes the track titles seem not that careless, considering telling titles like si00 and au14)

I seriously think that, how do you know there's plenty? Do you have an idea ~how many people buy regular releases for a start? And what's this argument that sketchier comps were released? Ae should lower their standard closer to the worst releases in history coz they don't care or why, exactly? Shitty or not to you, they were deemed as good as bonus tracks go by their creators, and in a comp context they would flow way worse than as an optional outro.

Embarrassment at how shitty and non-selling it would be?

You, like, answered your question yourself -- if you consolidate most of the stuff on, say, bandcamp (one fridge for everything), why would you go to other places (separate fridge for Ae, separate fridge for this, another one for that) for some unknown cut economy every time? It even maybe so that keeping up bleepstore is costlier than using bandcamp for a label. Tho that's not a question of label's convenience but customer's. You keep it in one place and have less customers as a result.

Why wouldn't they use everything possible just in case? They lose what exactly? Some people prefer bandcamp as a place to buy music. Warp may not like it coz of the fee, but the cut from Spotify, Apple music etc. gotta be incomparably lower, yet they are there (and not in one streaming service but all of them).

It's named SIGN as in ABBREVIATION, no atures and ificants for you dyslexicians!

It's for the last track to work (i personally hated that reverb turn they took after Untilted, it's such a boring experienced producer thing to do)

Unconvincing to me, a critic has absolutely understandable inhuman bias towards something he doesn't like, a fan has human bias towards something he listened thru a hundred times. A lot of people find Ae cold, alien etc. even while sympathising to it (i recall one robotic electro fan saying he liked to turn on Confield to be irradiated), so there must be a dimension of impenetrability. Of course there are fragile melodies and "emosh" stuff here and there, but that's not the general line, not why you come to Ae instead of BoC, for example. My take is that being cold, alien, autistic is interesting in music coz music is heavily tied to a human perspective that is unavoidable, it's nothing to shy away from, the problem with that is it almost always doesn't deliver on those premises, you see the fabricated nature of it. If somebody unknown gives me a choice to listen to something human or inhuman without any further clarification, i would prefer to listen to inhuman on average.

(I haven't read the book) How is inhuman music concept bullshit even if banal? Loads of noise and algorhythmic stuff and whatnot is intentionally inhuman, what's the argument against? Some just have a different picture of the border disposition between human/inhuman. That there's still human decisions behind it -- well, Reynolds clearly doesn't forget that with autistic boys metaphor (not reptilians or something). What i mean is that despite his own dismissive view towards Ae, the way he describes his troubles with it makes it seem cool if you don't follow on implications such as, schematically speaking, inhuman / autistic / pre-verbal = harmful to musical output. I saw his 2019 article on IDM-related modern electronica and he seems to be much warmer towards that style now (mentions Ae once too) https://pitchfork.com/features/article/2010s-rise-of-conceptronica-electronic-music/

And that was published in 1998, so before LP5 at least, which is funny. Tho this description feels complementary / gives an intriguing angle, if you don't take dismissive implications at face value.

Yo, i address loudly so errybody hears: it's named SIGN as in abbreviation, there's a difference there, do you also call Untilted Untitled coz who cares or what, we're in Ae subforum

How many? Let's count!

I remember, and i got a word from an unknown source that Ae agreed to remix Sophie. Probably other remixes are in queue. Don't believe that they would use M4L for their own stuff, i mean what's the practical reason to switch from Max? I think it works worse in M4L and gives them nothing new tool-wise

Bullseye! I didn't care for Oversteps much and it really feels like Oversteps 2.0 with variables -- not by sound/composition but as a stylistic move, even this "jams to songs" transition. MoT was certainly a more raw & welcomed collection to me, tho sorta mishmashed together very inconsistently (feels like the most ragged Ae release ever), and i hope for something similarly drastic to happen with the green one.