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    Incidentally one of the senior scientists involved with the development of Moderna's vaccine is an anonymous furry who has her MBTI and star sign in her Twitter bio. She's pretty awesome, too.
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    * sets home page to bing *
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    lol
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    The Lure of the Caricature - Anger and the Public Sphere (by Zeynep Tufekci)
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    Welp, so much for my charitable interpretation of what you were saying.
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    They might be talking about immunity debt due to ongoing non-pharmaceutical interventions though. For the record I don't think the notion of 'defeating' the virus is particularly useful either. Way too vague, and current vaccines are just a safer way of achieving what would have happened anyway. And if you're trying to emphasize that the virus isn't sentient maybe don't use expressions like "beating it into submission".
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    aj
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    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/
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    Also big lol @ moi discovering Amazon jp, five posts and eight years ago in this thread.
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    Deserves the attention I guess but cd was kind of the perfect format for this.
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    Baraka
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    Some more encouraging stuff about your vaccine protecting others even from Delta: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261295v1 Preprint obviously but:
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    I don't think there are hard contradictions between my posts and yours. I'm 100% pro vaccine and agree all of those that were available to me are already awesome as is, so awesome in fact that I suspect for many of the vaccinated they've already brought the subjective threat of COVID down to a completely acceptable level where they just want to carry on with their lives. I'm actually optimistic those parts of the planet with higher vaccination rates might be close to some sort of resolution where they can gradually allow the virus to circulate and not worry about it too much, maybe after next fall or so. The alternative is to double down and not settle for a level of risk we considered fine before this pandemic, an alternative which would deeply change society forever. I know it's probably overly pessimistic to entertain the thought that we vaccinated people might be as susceptible to (asymptomatic) infection from Delta as the unvaccinated, and equally infectious for equally long, unknowingly infecting others... I don't really expect that will prove to be the case but the fact is we don't know to what extent we are(n't) and that seems relevant in deciding what privileges we should enjoy and how much coercion should be used to get people to take the shots.
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    @rhmilo I'm not against the concept of mandatory vaccination in general, I'm saying in this case I'm on the fence concerning a mandate for the general population, and wary of giving too many privileges to the vaccinated and risk sending the message that they are no longer a risk to others, which we don't know. Living in a region with a very high voluntary vaccination rate, about as high as one could hope for I think, with severe disease and mortality seemingly under control for the time being, I say maybe wait a little while for the smoke to clear. For context, I believe the polio vaccine is the only one mandated in Belgium and in practice the rates are 90+% for many others (measles, tetanus, etcetera). @J3FF3R00 I appreciate the situation is much different when you're stuck at 50% and run a greater risk of unvaccinated patients clogging up your hospitals again and/or triggering strict measures that severely impact your daily life as well. The case for altruistic vaccination is much stronger in your environment than it is for the remaining unvaccinated minority here in Belgium. At least until it's established that the vaccinated are still less prone to infection or less infectuous with this Delta variant, and I don't think we're there yet. For the record it looks like the vaccines still do a phenomenal job of protecting against severe disease and death, but they do not live up to the expectations created by research done in the pre-Delta world. They will not stop the virus spreading and mutating anytime soon. So while they may end and prevent a lot of misery they are not going to end the disease. The sooner people are honestly informed about this the better.
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    While I think pretty much everyone 18 or over should probably go for the vaccine for their own sake, I think we're getting way ahead of ourselves with all the mandate and vaccine passport business. Sure as a member of the fully vaccinated group go ahead and give me the perks like avoiding testing and quarantine, I'm not complaining. But I haven't seen much convincing evidence that I'm really protecting anyone but myself. The vaccines are being way oversold at the moment to convince as many as possible to get them. Read the fine print and you'll see the data on protection from infection and transmission are mostly pre-Delta, and what we do know about Delta in the vaccinated is mixed at best. In Belgium we're headed for at least 85% vaccination among ages 18+, at those rates I really think hospital saturation is less of a concern and we need not demonize the unvaccinated minority or treat them as second-rate citizens, at least not until we know for a fact they are truly still more of a risk to others in the real world and not in some pre-Delta research paper. Besides, it seems obvious this shit is now going endemic for the foreseeable future, and given Delta's infectiousness it won't be long at all until everyone who doesn't die acquires some basic immunity one way or the other. I also don't think we are necessarily headed for endless booster shots in the general population, if we keep running into the virus at every turn that should be enough to keep us immune/it mostly harmless. We might see new or updated vaccines that are worth it, but for now the talk of boosters centers around the higher risk groups.
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    I undeniably had a bit of a Blue Tuesday a couple of days after my second shot, but already wasn't feeling 100% in the week leading up to it. First shot was just the stiff arm (which incidentally I didn't notice as much the second time around). One friend of mine felt under the weather for a week after his first dose, two others got fever and chills after the second one. Another friend's brother-in-law has caught the dreaded heart inflammation... but it was several weeks after his second dose, the dude was training for some kind of ultramarathon and I don't know the details, so make of that what you will. All Pfizer-BioNTech.
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    Same, got 2 shots of Comirnaty 5 weeks apart, last one now two weeks ago, so guess I officially count towards the fully vaccinated stat now. To be honest I wouldn't mind running into delta at this point, for a relatively low-risk shot at the coveted hybrid immunity.
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    Indeed, that wasn't my best post. For several reasons.
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    It's just a bit bro Drenched in irony The English are a truly exceptional people, the only ones on planet Earth who love being told how bad things are I understand this now, thanks to some random American explaining it to me on the wonderful website watmm.com
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    Is that you, Bizonnaci?
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    Chad Chiellini Virgin Morata
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    77 Françoise Hardy, ‘close to the end’ of her life, argues for assisted suicide
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