kaini Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 his stuff falls in an odd place in between bop and free jazz. too weird for bop, too conventional for free jazz. he was probably the first to rape a flute using extended technique. and he soloed using twelve-tone technique a lot of the time eric dolphy is idm. my favourite dolphy tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmT1-tdSaaM eric tearing chunks out of the audience live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDAbp9m5yw eric on the flute (this is a MONSTROUS track anyway. coltrane on soprano sax stretches the theme into fucking incredible awesome interesting shapes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_n-gRS_wdI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 he is fucking amazing yes. there isn't much else to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 he is fucking amazing yes. there isn't much else to say Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 eric dolphy coltrane and eric dolphy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibURCPx4Iug eric dolphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 he has loads of solo albums, but only three on blue note - which tend to be regarded as the noteworthy ones. i only have out to lunch and three others he's a sideman on loads though - coltrane's village vanguard recordings and impressions, also coleman's seminal free jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 charles mingus - the great concert of charles mingus & cornell 1964 ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 my favourite dolphy tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmT1-tdSaaM Awesome stuff indeed. I love Bobby Hutcherson as well, his 1970 album San Francisco is great (and very IDM too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ive always had trouble getting into out to lunch for some reason. gravitaed more to the fusion jazz of miles, tony williams etc. think ill give dolphy another try tho, seeing as hes seen as such a classic artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 well, that shit is great too. especially miles. i love the early miles hot nine/eleven 'birth of the cool' shit, it's great. and the bitches brew/in a silent way/live evil/on the corner/jack johnson(my personal favourite) stuff... incomparable but i like my bop to come from coltrane, coltrane, eric dolphy, coltrane, cannonball adderley, coltrane and charles mingus. it's a shame that the coffeetable ruined kind of blue. but it's overrated anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 well, that shit is great too. especially miles. i love the early miles hot nine/eleven 'birth of the cool' shit, it's great. and the bitches brew/in a silent way/live evil/on the corner/jack johnson(my personal favourite) stuff... incomparable but i like my bop to come from coltrane, coltrane, eric dolphy, coltrane, cannonball adderley, coltrane and charles mingus. it's a shame that the coffeetable ruined kind of blue. but it's overrated anyway. is "black saint and the sinner lady" bop? also, youre forgetting "get up with it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Bump. Dolphy was one of the coolest cats to walk the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 kind of blue overrated? I'd say it's rated just perfectly as a jazz masterpiece. One of the biggest shots in modal jazz (if not the biggest) with all it's beautiful melodic movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 kind of blue is not overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I find it very difficult to put Mingus' stuff into categories because stuff like BSatSL is so composed that it sort of defies being called Bop but it's by no means Free Jazz either, not visceral and noisy enough. Mingus really was such an astounding composer and some of his pieces (the full-scale Epitaph suite in particular) have a lot more in common with classical music than jazz in a structural sense. But back on topic, Dolphy was the shit. A real shame that he died so young, he could have come out with so much more incredible shit. But yeah, what we have is plenty to treasure. I especially love his work on Coltrane's Village Vanguard recordings, he goes for some very odd note selections at times and I could think of few others who would have been so perfect a foil to Coltrane at that stage of his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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