Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 god damn I forgot how much I love the beat on The pharcyde - runnin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 dilla subforum or bust. I would support that, but my first vote would go for Prince Paul if we could only have one hip hop producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 all my dilla is beats rhymes & life and dillanthology 3cd but i still don't see why he's so great in fact q-tip started to suck right around the time that dilla produced most of his first solo lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I'm glad I started this thread. There's good stuff here. I just bought the Fantastic Vol. 2.10 instrumental tracks. you're gonna love them, those are some of my favorite Dilla beats all my dilla is beats rhymes & life and dillanthology 3cd lol edit: never mind, I looked at the tracklist and it's not too bad, alright comp. but you don't still dig him? to each his own, I guess. dilla subforum or bust. I'm ok with this It will never happen though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 all my dilla is beats rhymes & life and dillanthology 3cd lol edit: never mind, I looked at the tracklist and it's not too bad, alright comp. but you don't still dig him? to each his own, I guess. i can enjoy his music but all the hype distracts me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 Blicero, was that Aa track from the other thread one of your dtrenz tracks? It's pretty tight. Seriously, is it? It's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 drunk beats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 [youtubehd]ceJJpuREXm0[/youtubehd] i've never understood the Flying Lotus comarison until now. thanxz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 You just have to listen to his early/mid productions, then all will become clear. Anything past 2004 is when he took a more sample-based, raw sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I dunno how we can be this far in the thread without this video being posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYw0NnHDRzc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Total classic, the stuff he did with De La is just mindblowing. I know it's only been about a year, but new Dilla album, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr12000 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is my take on it: It's all about the swing... and for me its just as much Madlib as Dilla. Dilla and Madlib lock into this super swung groove. It's a feeling, a vibe. It's loose but still together. It locks into this beautiful pocket. In the past, Hip Hop beats have been very sequenced and ridged to the grid, and since the looseness of Dilla, its all breaking apart. (There have been cats to use the MPC loosely before Dilla, I'm sure.. Pete Rock?) It's not just that there are beats and samples... It's the kind of beat... the way it bumps, and they way the samples are flipped. His use of samples is very signature. Then there is the side-chained kick, which has been taken and abstracted even further in this post-Jaylib world. A lot of it has to do with technique. People are approaching beat music in a different way than they did before, so even if some of this new shit doesn't sound like Dilla, you can hear the influence in the approach. But really... a lot of this new abstract Hip Hop is EXTREMELY Dilla, I don' think people saying its all post-Dilla is ridiculous at all. I'll be chillin listening to Samiyam, Flying Lotus, Bibio, or another producer in this camp and friends will ask me "oh shit is this some J Dilla?" Chilled out, stoned out, BAM. Put Madlib in this equation, he's largely responsible for the super raw, smoked out vibe lately too. I think Madlib is what made Dilla shift from his older sound to his sampled raw shit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms-dos Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is my take on it: It's all about the swing... and for me its just as much Madlib as Dilla. Dilla and Madlib lock into this super swung groove. It's a feeling, a vibe. It's loose but still together. It locks into this beautiful pocket. In the past, Hip Hop beats have been very sequenced and ridged to the grid, and since the looseness of Dilla, its all breaking apart. (There have been cats to use the MPC loosely before Dilla, I'm sure.. Pete Rock?) It's not just that there are beats and samples... It's the kind of beat... the way it bumps, and they way the samples are flipped. His use of samples is very signature. Then there is the side-chained kick, which has been taken and abstracted even further in this post-Jaylib world. A lot of it has to do with technique. People are approaching beat music in a different way than they did before, so even if some of this new shit doesn't sound like Dilla, you can hear the influence in the approach. But really... a lot of this new abstract Hip Hop is EXTREMELY Dilla, I don' think people saying its all post-Dilla is ridiculous at all. I'll be chillin listening to Samiyam, Flying Lotus, Bibio, or another producer in this camp and friends will ask me "oh shit is this some J Dilla?" Chilled out, stoned out, BAM. Put Madlib in this equation, he's largely responsible for the super raw, smoked out vibe lately too. I think Madlib is what made Dilla shift from his older sound to his sampled raw shit anyway. well said. swing those beats. chop, swing, shuffle, stick the drum hits back together with scotch tape and rubber bands. also, dilla -- at least in his later period -- is an unusually melodic hip-hop producer, and those wonky producers that we all love so much aren't shying away from melody either. lone apes this shit all over the place, often to good effect. see what i mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrpR7Y1ez0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Put Madlib in this equation, he's largely responsible for the super raw, smoked out vibe lately too. I think Madlib is what made Dilla shift from his older sound to his sampled raw shit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 how did this not get posted yet favorite dilla beat apart from some of the stuff on donuts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seYxVBIsycE and this too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-PsJwyiJg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain James Mission Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpiYRIcjAxQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si_J7eF95HY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjWtTmLY4OU David Bowie Sample! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Threads like these remind me why I love this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr12000 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Threads like these, eh Gary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Don't make me start rapping again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUeJDM5oU94&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 I'm glad I started this thread. There's good stuff here. I just bought the Fantastic Vol. 2.10 instrumental tracks. you're gonna love them, those are some of my favorite Dilla beats word, this is great. worth the purchase for Players and Conant Gardens alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I just think it's really funny that 90% of the people on this forum that repeatedly "dont get" dilla, have mostly heard Donuts or a few other albums, and for the most part really don't know any thing about his music. I mean The first post in this thread for example (the only one I read) Lol Alzado's interpretation of what the "dilla sound" is makes it fairly obvious he has no idea why Dilla is good. I just have to say WATMM is obviously not a hip-hop forum, and these dilla threads are just lots of facepalmery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Is there where I play the age card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantsonmyhead Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 it just sounds better than saying Madlibby...or Flying lot-esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbhasdance Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dilla Dilla Dilla one of the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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