awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ron Paul has now been on the Drudge homepage once a week for the past month He is now in the #2 polling position for Iowa As he gets closer to this position the right wing establishment goes on full attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Ron Paul Buffalo Chicken Kebabs-$6.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Pros - DRUGS!! Cons - Old, Creationist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I thought this was gonna be, like, a thread to share audio clips from Ron Paul speeches so we could all make awful politiwobstep remixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Sorry, seriously though, I used to love the guy, but my enthusiasm has died down a bit. Positive: Foreign policy actually maintains some semblance of sanity. Negative: Hands-off free market philosophy would be incredibly dangerous in current economic and corporate climate. Progressive regulatory actions need to be taken to break up the monoliths...then try to implement a free market experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 this is what happens when a man who seems highly principled gets closer to the prize http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAsLPrnJGc more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 it doesn't matter. If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 nice thread you got there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanakori Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 he's coherent. If i were american id vote for him. It's seems to be the first candidate i apporve. He's solid. it doesn't matter. If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems. He believes that abortion is wrong morally and personally, but, he also realizes the government cannot interfere federally. Only through states rights and personal liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 my guess is all this abortion talk is a ruse to gain moral credibility from the religious right. if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 "this might be your last chance" says Piers Morgan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV7BdpaulFg&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 he's coherent. If i were american id vote for him. It's seems to be the first candidate i apporve. He's solid. it doesn't matter. If Paul is principled and takes the states' rights position, a state that legalizes abortion does what it does and he shan't do a fucking thing about it regardless of personal value systems. He believes that abortion is wrong morally and personally, but, he also realizes the government cannot interfere federally. Only through states rights and personal liberty. exactly....the question is whether he will actually back that up.....also consider him placing Supreme Court nominees to overturn Roe v. Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate. you mean within the republican paradigm? ron paul smacks a bitch down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 if the guy seriously wants to federally mandate abortion laws, hes automatically out of my book as a viable candidate. you mean within the republican paradigm? i mean that if your whole platform is obeying the Constitution regardless of personal opinion, you better sure as shit not even hint at dealing with abortion on a federal level. Hands off means hands off. ...that's why I think these commercials are to make him more credible to the religious right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Americans think he is Jesus, its getting scary .. i fear for the collective mental health of the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 i made a third ron paul thread because we needed it and it got deleted very quickly for some reason it doesn't even turn up in the nonsense/crap forum fml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibe3Sd9wY58 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFiwlHLfUs i dont really like these 2 shows much, but they hit the nail on the head on the Fox News attempt to make Ron Paul disappear. First they ignored him now since he is actually 1st place in Iowa polls, the attacks are now full force. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8EwKLAuSyw Cenk makes some good points, some good bill clips in here i know using the term 'shadow government' will discredit me in some people's eyes, but i think this video and ron paul downplaying is a great example of them coming out of the shadows a little too obviously. The last time i felt this way about the invisble hand becoming visible was when every credit card company , big bank, amazon and paypal all collectively tried to stop Wikleaks from receiving donations usually this behind the scenes element has excluded people from the race by simply phasing them out of the debates, this time around they didnt do it. Kucinich and Gravel were quietly phased out of the 2008 presidential debates, i guess it's too late now for them to do the same to Paul (im not a mod so this was a half assed thread cleanup/split attempt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 u keep making politics threads and i know its about ron paul cuz hes cool and all but come on does any1 REALLY wanna talk about that stuff other than u and chaos machine!?!? u should just pm him if u guys really wanna talk about it that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Americans only think Ron Paul is Jesus because everyone else seems so close to satanic personalities. Pretty simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 there is a lot of really weird fan art for Ron Paul out there, probably more than any other politician, please post more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Worth watching, very informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 omg ron pauls an alien i friggin knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 that video is hilarious, here is a piece of kind of creepy fan art Ron Paul stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wQ435X1h2A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 as I said in the other thread . . would vote for just to support someone intelligent & steady in his beliefs in office. However I am idealistically in favor of a strong benevolent federal government in some areas (economic/environmental regulation, worker's rights, for example) and am afraid his anti-federal philosophy would split the US into smaller corrupt harder-to-control bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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