Hugh Mughnus
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I understand. However quick question - do you think these same people, without the capitalists organizing them, would enjoy the same standard of living etc? Isn’t there a reason certain people have emerged to direct and lead efficient production, which ultimately is benefitting all? In other places kingdom animalia we see the same divisions, such as ants and bees etc. Edit: I’m adopting the position that capitalism benefits on balance, based on QOL, life span, etc.
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State intervention in labour relations here (Quebec aside) is not really a thing ? No not really. For goods and services in Canada there are requirements as to the % of local parts and labour for fulfillment. There is still a decent amount of protectionism even between provinces. Pure capitalism (the US is probably the best example?) is different. But here even for say, a construction project, there are requirements as to how much labour/tradesman are sourced locally. There are still significant barriers. companies do not have the freedom to import labour like you’re suggesting. Native rights are a very complex and sensitive topic.
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I understand. But in practice this doesn’t really happen, at least not in Canada. Workers control the means of production to the point where it doesn’t escalate to state intervention, in part because the capitalists have a semblance of humanism. Aka they aren’t big fucking dickheads. ?
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Frankly I’m interested in learning more about the theoretical constructs that underpin your approach. Maybe you can list the main constructs?
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I have to disagree. The working class holds considerable leverage over capitalists; this is evident in Canadian wages for example. Ireland is another good example. Quite frequently in Canada hourly wages of unionized workers far exceed management. This is a sentiment that resonates with me - no workers, no company. Control is an interesting construct. I’m interested in hearing how you define control.
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Socialism falls along a spectrum, much like the disorder I enjoy. You tend to advocate extreme socialism. However almost all countries practice socialism. That’s where I’m getting confused. There’s a trade off for capitalism, the social contract. Governments in general recognize the displacement capitalism causes, creative destruction... it’s matched with social programs etc. By and large capitalism is fantastic, though there are winners and losers in the short run.
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I’m not sure why you’re telling me what I assume lol. I have well developed ideas on this topic but don’t really share them as watmm is supposed to be a place where we discover new music and be happy. That said, if socialism is meant to be, it will be realized at some point. By the will of the people. Until then, I mean... the people don’t want it. ?
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Humans respond to incentives. We’re biologically wired this way.
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Is marijuana use an unspoken rule for posting on WATMM?
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I don’t disagree with the sentiments that education, housing, and essentials should be free.
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Humans have the drive to achieve when they get something out of it. That’s the whole basis of capitalism. And your analogy doesn’t really make sense because the capitalism game is obviously doing far better irl.
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Yes hunny Edit: pls name one of your new trax “etc etc sg” lol
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specialization/division of labour etc etc Specialism inherently means differentiation etc etc It should be clear where I'm going with this.
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Optics.
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Ask hitler?
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As someone that has worked in meat processing facilities... I don’t think you really want to see inside.
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I’m sure there’s more to come. I just want it now ?
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Whats the surprise though? That we can buy the same back catalogue off sp.net instead of bandcamp? This is not exciting. Lol
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Yes. So as of right now nothing new available. I guess that’s what I’m trying to say (I’m a few drinks in sorry) lol.
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Nah they were on the pusher’ bandcamp tho?
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What am I missing? Those have been available for months. That site went live in 2020 iirc
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Agreed! Some of the tracks from that were really good, classic pusher'. My fav: Acid furlough was cool too. There were a total of what, 5 tracks? Was surprised it didn't materialize into a little Vicacid EP or something. As I understand it the tracks were found via qr codes posted around Tokyo or something? As a bonus after Be Up? I don't know.
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this is what I’m hoping for - expanded editions, get some of that archived material from different periods? Would be lush edit: and I should clarify... I guess I meant it seems like something is coming for sure this time. I thought the vicacid.net thing was leading to something but that came and went.
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yep! Something is coming for sure. I’d put money on it.
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Big snek tho
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