Guest tv_party Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 It's funny that this came up. I'm halfway through Solaris right now and I was thinking about this. I like Solaris so far however the faintly low budget feel intrudes a little at times. The sounds are well amazing though. Fuck the people with the attention span of a gnat. Too many energy drinks and hard sell seizure inducing rapid fire edits. Go stare at a strobe light. 2001 is too good for you. And the Ligeti pieces... Star Wars while great, goes into a different box. THX-1138 feels closer to 2001 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosca Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 my old boss went to see it when it came out in one of those cinemas with three screens around you - he was tripping hard on some blotter acid and swears that it was a religous experience. also, kubrik was the first person to show on screen that there is no sound in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mononomo Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 my old boss went to see it when it came out in one of those cinemas with three screens around you - he was tripping hard on some blotter acid and swears that it was a religous experience. also, kubrik was the first person to show on screen that there is no sound in space. I don't think I've ever seen another movie that did that right. I liked the books as well...after reading them I decided the only way I'd ever want to live after I "die" would be a bowman-alien-spirit-being-thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest organizedconfusedproject Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What's yout theroy about the monolith guys ? Extraterrestrial or divine origin ? Oh and I want to add that just before the final scene , there is a reverse image of the bigbang. i read somewhere, that time before bigbang is a really strange thing called imaginary time : events does exist but aren't connected logically with each others. It brings to mind that final scene, nope ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 What's yout theroy about the monolith guys ? Extraterrestrial or divine origin ? i haven't read the books - (didn't it end up being a trilogy?), they probably illuminate that a lot better :undecided: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest organizedconfusedproject Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I didn't read the book but saw 2001,obviously, and 2010 (or something like that) aka "2001 2". besides this one is crappy, there is a good explanation to hal9000. In fact he would know since the beginning the goal of the mission, but would have to hide it. And as he's designed not to distord information, it's quite a difficul task to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serpico009 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 There is also supposed to be an Ender's Game movie with the script written by Orson Scott Card. I have high hopes for that. Yeah I've been waiting for this for years. I haven't read them in awhile but the first three books in the Ender series were really good and had some interesting, comlicated ideas, especially in the third book on the Path planet with all the time travel business, the Piggies life cycle, the weird pseudo-Japanese ritual, and the...fuck, whatever they called the faster-than-light communication network that spawns a living digital being. Starts with an A... Anyway, those war game scenes between the kids at the academy would look awesome onscreen, and when he murders that kid in the shower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serpico009 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 "THX-1138 feels closer to 2001 to me." Why doesn't Lucas let a theatrical cut of this be released? I don't mind most of the additions in the DIrector's Cut, but the shots of all these giant trucks and rocket cars driving on superhighways really fucks it up for me. Part of the appeal of the original cut is the sense of claustrophobia and remoteness, but the new cut makes it looks like 3 million people live in an underground Mall of America at times. The Fountain also seems ot be in the vein of 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velazquez Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 This thread is in total synch with Pink Floyd's "meddle" side b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b born droid Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Probably the scariest PG rated film ever. All of the Ligeti pieces give me the willies. I just bought the soundtrack for this on vinyl. It's amazing. An amazing film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assegai Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I just caught this on a movie channel for the first time last night from 1:30am-4am. Which was probably a horrible time of the night to get into a movie this slow moving. Can someone summarize what the hell I just watched? I read the wiki and try to piece it together. Big scifi fan (blade runner, alien, metropolis, brazil etc) however never got around to seeing this. So the apes are the begging of man, cut to a mission to the moon (weird sounds?), cut to mission to jupiter, computer sabotages mission (tells them their comms are gonna fail, why?), rainbow time travel? Does this need a couple more viewings? It looked amazing but I think I was too tired at the time to pick up everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 just try and watch 2010 lol that was horrible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Does this need a couple more viewings? It looked amazing but I think I was too tired at the time to pick up everything I have seen it probably 10 times and I still don't know everything... its meaning is up to its viewer. Definitely re-visit it. Weed makes this film better also... it makes the slowness not so slow.. at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 2001 is boring. Just plain boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assegai Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I found this http://www.kubrick2001.com/ right after I posted and cleared most of it up actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 What's yout theroy about the monolith guys ? Extraterrestrial or divine origin ? i haven't read the books - (didn't it end up being a trilogy?), they probably illuminate that a lot better :undecided: Yes, it was actually a series of four books, but they never made a movie of the third and fourth books: 2061 3001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 this is my second favorite movie, it blew my mind the first time i saw it. yes it was ahead of its time. it's the best scifi movie ever made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 i would finally buy a blu-ray player just for this movie. i thought before the big bang was a big crunch. doesnt the universe just expand and contract on itself like a giant organism breathing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 the space special effects and compositing in 2001 a space odyssey exceed the quality in many modern films made now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adjective Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 i'm surprised that anyone is only now seeing it on the documentary from the bluray, Arthur C. Clarke says that the monolith was originally going to be a sort of display and have visuals. that it was supposed to be a sort of teaching tool. he also said that kubrick was never sure how to end it and that if the budget had been greater they would've filmed more and it'd be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Well, having read all four books... Spoilers - do not read if you don't want to know what the Monolith's purpose was: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «The monoliths were created by aliens to initially 'jump-start' human life, and eventually, evaluate the human race at a certain point to see if it is worthy to survive. In the fourth book, the monoliths attempt to wipe out the human race, but end up not succeeding due to HAL, who has merged with Poole from the first book, by infecting the monoliths with a virus. And that's a really condensed, simplified synopsis and hardly complete, I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Aurther C Clarke's 2001 and Stanley Kubrick's 2001 are a totally different animal the movie came out before the book of 2001 and it was based on an Aurther Clarke short The Sentinal the film was a collaboration between Kubrick and Clarke but i think Kubrick had final say, if you watch promotional stuff from before the movie came out you can tell Clarke was hoping for a lot more of a classic sci fi triumphant space adventure than a cerebral ambient mind fuck movie. I believe the book 2001 was his chance to 'flesh out some of the aspects of the 2001 movie he felt were not explained enough such as the nature of the Monoliths and what was happening to Bowman as he encountered the larger monolith and exactly why HAL went haywire (in the book it's a much more mundane explanation of contradictory programming, in the film its left unexplained allowing for more emotional resonance imo) I far prefer the 2001 movie over the book, probably one of the only cases i can say this about a book VS movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 There is also supposed to be an Ender's Game movie with the script written by Orson Scott Card. I have high hopes for that. Yeah I've been waiting for this for years. I haven't read them in awhile but the first three books in the Ender series were really good and had some interesting, comlicated ideas, especially in the third book on the Path planet with all the time travel business, the Piggies life cycle, the weird pseudo-Japanese ritual, and the...fuck, whatever they called the faster-than-light communication network that spawns a living digital being. Starts with an A... Anyway, those war game scenes between the kids at the academy would look awesome onscreen, and when he murders that kid in the shower i just spotted a graphic novel and/or miniseries of comic boos being made out of Enders Game at the book store the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assegai Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Well, having read all four books... Spoilers - do not read if you don't want to know what the Monolith's purpose was: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The monoliths were created by aliens to initially 'jump-start' human life, and eventually, evaluate the human race at a certain point to see if it is worthy to survive. In the fourth book, the monoliths attempt to wipe out the human race, but end up not succeeding due to HAL, who has merged with Poole from the first book, by infecting the monoliths with a virus. And that's a really condensed, simplified synopsis and hardly complete, I might add. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So HAL saving the human race completely contradicts the movie 2001? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehighwayman Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 hello..... if you haven't already, i strongly recommend you check out rob agers analysis on this film... as well as his decoding of other Kubrick films.... as far as i am aware, nobody has come as close as this guy does, to unravelling the myth of the monolith for Stanley's proposed cinematic interpretation of Clarkes the sentinel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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