OneToThirtySix Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 yes Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 we all experience life as seemingly separate occurrences when we are truly experiencing life as a whole, outside of the ideas of space and time, beyond all that we call see, more into what we feel, and then into one infinite thought experiencing itself through each and everyone of us, we are not as small as we think, we are the whole verse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 If that is true, why do so many people experience life with such a large range of differing outcomes? Why don't more people have similar, parallel life experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 They do, you just don't see them as being the same, only similar, the outcome is always the same no matter what the details are, death always comes last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 But if you are already a part of humanity as a whole, wouldn't joining a forum community forum be redundant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 But if you are already a part of humanity as a whole, wouldn't joining a forum community be redundant? Fixt. Damn expiring edit button . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 i dream, therefore you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Aren't our ideas of what is a dream and what is real all relative? I mean waking life seems more real in comparison to a dream. I can see why a state of pure consciousness after death would make our idea of waking life seem like a dream, but since I haven't experienced that yet, it doesn't do much for me now. It is extremely interesting though, and makes me want to get into lucid dreaming again. Basically what I am saying is that it's plausible and interesting, but waking life is still waking life, and getting a grip on reality (or what you are used to as reality, let's not split hairs here) is probably the best idea. Go outside or something. Eat a sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think brain damage is the simplest refutation of any meaningful notion of an eternal soul. wouldn't it be funny if our libido was the only thing in us that had an eternal existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so whatever energy that is running our bodies goes elsewhere when we die, this makes sense, but what the word soul and energy have in common is always up for debate and written about in thousands of thousand paged books, this discussion will never end, the 'Tao Te Ching' is a short book with many answers for myself, and for many others, but it doesn't matter what we believe, that is what happens for us 'individually', and if we investigate further into different peoples lives, if we look and study very hard, there is a pattern, not unique to any 'individual', but the same for all conscious and seemingly unconscious life, the verse is infinite, every man and woman is a star, love is the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dreaming of that face again. It's bright and blue and shimmering. Grinning wide And comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes. On my back and tumbling Down that hole and back again Rising up And wiping the webs and the dew from my withered eye. In... Out... In... Out... In... Out... A child's rhyme stuck in my head. It said that life is but a dream. I've spent so many years in question to find I've known this all along. "So good to see you. I've missed you so much. So glad it's over. I've missed you so much Came out to watch you play. Why are you running?" Shroud-ing all the ground around me Is this holy crow above me. Black as holes within a memory And blue as our new second sun. I stick my hand into his shadow To pull the pieces from the sand. Which I attempt to reassemble To see just who I might have been. I do not recognize the vessel, But the eyes seem so familiar. Like phosphorescent desert buttons Singing one familiar song... "So good to see you. I've missed you so much. So glad it's over. I've missed you so much. Came out to watch you play. Why are you running away?" Prying open my third eye. So good to see you once again. I thought that you were hiding. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing the tail of dogma. I opened my eye and there we were. So good to see you once again I thought that you were hiding from me. And you thought that I had run away. Chasing a trail of smoke and reason. Prying open my third eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Black then white are all I see in my infancy. red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me. lets me see. As below, so above and beyond, I imagine drawn beyond the lines of reason. Push the envelope. Watch it bend. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines. Black then white are all I see in my infancy. red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me. lets me see there is so much more and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities. As below, so above and beyond, I imagine drawn outside the lines of reason. Push the envelope. Watch it bend. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind. Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind. Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human. With my feet upon the ground I lose myself between the sounds and open wide to suck it in, I feel it move across my skin. I'm reaching up and reaching out, I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me. And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been. Spiral out. Keep going, going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I met a boy wearing vans, 501s, and a Dope beastie t, nipple rings, and New tattoos that claimed that he Was ogt, From 92, The first ep. And in between Sips of coke He told me that He thought We were sellin out, Layin down, Suckin up To the man. Well now Ive got some A-dvice for you, little buddy. Before you point the finger You should know that Im the man, And if Im the man, Then youre the man, and Hes the man as well so you can Point that fuckin finger up your ass. All you know about me is what Ive sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one. So Ive got some Advice for you, little buddy. Before you point your finger You should know that Im the man, If Im the fuckin man Then youre the fuckin man as well So you can Point that fuckin finger up your ass. All you know about me is what Ive sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one. All you read and Wear or see and Hear on tv Is a product Begging for your Fatass dirty Dollar So...shut up and Buy my new record Send more money Fuck you, buddy. This is relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 It's all an open center Opens up and lets the wind lift him away It doesn't have to feel water ? It's just a place that feels right with him ? Kinda like the way you're breathing I kinda like the way you keep looking away Would you like to glide on Slide a mile six inches at a time on Maynard's dick There's a shyness found in reason Apprehensive influence swallow away You seem to feel abysmal take it ? then you're careful grace for sure ? Kinda like the way you're breathing Kinda like the way you keep looking away Would you like to climb on Climb on my six inches and go down on Maynard's dick Took you out in the back of the toolshed Put it right on top of your forehead Took you out in the back of the toolshed Now you know what you're fuckin with... Maynard's dick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 APSU TIAMUT LAHMU AND LAHAM ANSAR AND KISAR ANU NUDIMMUD When on high the heaven, had not be named Firm ground below was unnamed APSU TIAMUT LAHMU AND LAHAM ANSAR AND KISAR ANU NUDIMMUD When on high the heaven, had not be named Firm ground below was unnamed Mummu Tiamat she who bore them Naught primordial Apsu their begetter [CHORUS] And the earth has been done and the life has just begun and the formless void and darkness outdone And the water has been done and the sky raised up separating the water the genesis goes on And the greater light has been done and the lesser light spun to rule the day and night together with the stars And the living creatures has been done and the sea monsters have born and everything that moves with which the waters swarm She made the Worm the Dragon The Female Monster the Great Lion The Mad Dog the Man Scorpion The Howling Storm [CHORUS] And the greater light has been done and the lesser light spun to rule the day and night together with the stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 chaos maybe you could talk more about what you said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so whatever energy that is running our bodies goes elsewhere when we die, this makes sense, but what the word soul and energy have in common is always up for debate and written about in thousands of thousand paged books, this discussion will never end, the 'Tao Te Ching' is a short book with many answers for myself, and for many others, but it doesn't matter what we believe, that is what happens for us 'individually', and if we investigate further into different peoples lives, if we look and study very hard, there is a pattern, not unique to any 'individual', but the same for all conscious and seemingly unconscious life, the verse is infinite, every man and woman is a star, love is the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 i've been having stupid dreams lately like i dreamt i was a dog made of bread, and i was upset that nobody wanted to use my breadcrumbs in recipes that call for breadcrumbs (i was getting breadcrumbs everywhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 sounds like a quite amusing yet befuddling dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Do you practice Taichi, Atop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 No, I practice dancing like a freak to electronic music, whatever that is called.... Spazzing out, I believe.... and I read a lot.... and meditate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Meditiation is something I do everyday, fifteen minutes in the morning when I wake up and 15 minutes in the evening before bed time, it's an amazing mind clearing, spiritual technique. I find mental visualization meditation the best form though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 faggots lol jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doorjamb Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 omg listen to my dream guys I had just been in some clothing store in a mall, running from someone I think. I took the escalator down, turned and went down the next one, into a basement with earth walls and a door. there were a couple chill looking people walking in both directions so I felt safer and opened the door to find a huge fenced open space with lights all round and a crowd moving around. there was amazing music playing, but I rarely remember music from my dreams. I realized the door would lock behind me and tried to tell someone, but nobody seemed to care so I let it close. the sky was huge and completely blanketed in weird low clouds that were lit up by the lights below. as I walked across the open space I realized I was tripping, and so was everyone around me. it was totally natural and didn't feel like any drug I've ever tried, just a pure, clear-headed trip. I noticed the clouds were a very different texture, and moving, and highlighted in oranges and pinks and greens (and this was not due to the tripping). the crowd was going insane all around me and I woke up looking at those clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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