SR4 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 threads like this remind me watmm is still a pretty dandy little oasis you have to admit though, SR4 and Happycase making peace in a thread on psychology and spirituality is :sup: what are you saying exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 i'm saying you're a colossal cunt and happycase is an addled hippie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Ranky Redlof Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 charlatans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonz1 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 i follow this guy through thick and thin also, bill nye should start a religion http://thehumanist.org/humanist/10_nov_dec/Nye.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 dmt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertsk8er419 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Alan Watts is one I haven't seen mentioned. Good thread... of course psychology and spirituality are connected, such is the nature of reality, maaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 wow boobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 i hate my life and i want to die. honestly taking a look at suffering is a good start to realizing whats really going on in this place. first we must see what the world and this experience isn't to then know it for what it is. if we naively celebrate life just based on the positive things it allows us then we are not seeing what is really going on. things need to change, we all need to be changed but first we must be made to see what it means to allow ourselves to be changed and understand what it is that will do the changing. quite possible the most destructive aspects of many so called spiritual paths and spiritual teachers is dishonesty (some don't even know they are being dishonest) and candy coating. it's hard to gain a following if one speaks the truth because the fact is that the truth is disturbing and not what most people want to hear. most spiritual figures will soften the truth or make it more palatable, more interesting to the worldly senses. some completely change the truth or come from a place of 100% self-invention. that is not passing the flame and keeping it lit as we are meant to do, it is instead putting it out and screwing in a lightbulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonz1 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 troon you provided no evidence or even examples to support your claim. dishonesty? lol? two sides to every jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 what you see is what you get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonz1 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 troon, i know you think that everyone is under you and blind and needs to wake up, and i lol every time you post something ambiguously ambiguous to try to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Would be interesting to see some discussions going on in this thread about psychologists/theories that people may currently be reading up on. Maybe discussions over interesting theories or claims? I'm reading up on a lot of John Watson at the moment He seems to really emphasise throughout his career the need for psychology to be reoriented toward the perspectives of "Behaviourism" - a field of study which included contributions by B.F. Skinner whereby the core understanding is that environment helps to shape a lot of the behaviour animals convey (of course this goes for humans as well) therefore all that should be analysed is the behaviour (output result) of people in relation to the environment they have been conditioned by. Interesting claim that Watson makes: He explains that from a very early age, when young children (between the ages of 1-2 years) begin learning to 'verbalise' the world around them, slowly building up a vocabulary beginning with nouns and moving on from there after 2 years of age. He says that from his own observations, a lot of children think aloud, meaning that when they're beginning to verbalise their world surrounding them, they talk to themselves to further understand situations and objects in the environment. Parents and society have the ability to suppress this "thinking aloud" by claiming it is socially abnormal for an individual to talk to themselves.. so then children naturally (according Watson) talk to their dolls and toys instead, as if these inanimate objects are their audience - and here we witness the suppressing tendencies of society on the mind of a child which Watson describes as unhealthy. I think the processes that come with verablising the world around you and thinking aloud to help you better understand things should be encouraged from an early age .. otherwise that child could develop a mindset where they hide their inner emotions and feelings about given social situations later in life, and may find it harder to effectively explain their personal psychology to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 bread thats very interesting. there are so many aspects that are suppressed in young children. the first ten years of a child's development sets most of the major themes for their lives. it's said that it would be best for a child to interact with all that is primarily nonlinear for the first ten years. linear thinking is destructive, especially for a young mind and program's it in the wrong way, linear types of education are pushed on children at far to young an age. 1-10 is for dreaming, it's for learning how to dream, how to think about things that are not inside the square of beginnings and endings. young people need to be given the freedom to develop eternal consciousness outside the false boundaries of time and space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 bread thats very interesting. there are so many aspects that are suppressed in young children. the first ten years of a child's development sets most of the major themes for their lives. it's said that it would be best for a child to interact with all that is primarily nonlinear for the first ten years. linear thinking is destructive, especially for a young mind and program's it in the wrong way, linear types of education are pushed on children at far to young an age. 1-10 is for dreaming, it's for learning how to dream, how to think about things that are not inside the square of beginnings and endings. young people need to be given the freedom to develop eternal consciousness outside the false boundaries of time and space. The false boundaries of time and space? Are you fucking kidding me? Now I want you to define non-linear vs. linear thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 i think the thing that fucked me up more as a kid is other fucking kids. I wish there were schools where the kids are screened so i wouldnt have been placed in a prison with a sand box full of little jerks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 i think the thing that fucked me up more as a kid is other fucking kids. I wish there were schools where the kids are screened so i wouldnt have been placed in a prison with a sand box full of little jerks i agree... and that was just in the schoolyard. back in the schoolhouse, they also did their best to ruin art, science, and many other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Now I want you to define non-linear vs. linear thinking. most accurate definition: nonlinear = spirit linear = mind + body less accurate definition but still a good example: nonlinear = right brain linear = left brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I got a lot from D.T. Suzuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Troon you should read Trungpa's "Cutting through Spiritual Materialism." He does a good job murdering your spiritual ego by showing you everything about it. Moralism and this degree of certainty in your spirituality is one of the most intense and thoroughly rigid ways for an ego to preserve and strengthen itself. In my opinion there are issues around mirroring and narcissistic wounds that you are covering up by being spiritual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Now I want you to define non-linear vs. linear thinking. most accurate definition: nonlinear = spirit linear = mind + body less accurate definition but still a good example: nonlinear = right brain linear = left brain bah hah hah hah hah. you could at least try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 the irony of taking any given situation to be Utmostly Serious when there is only ordinariness to go around. just the yummy and fantastically big ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 if you have itunes podcasts check out the "Zencast" series. i've begun to listen to these while i'm laying in bed getting set to fall asleep. it's a good tool to add to your arsenal. seriously, do a search on itunes. EDIT: listen to jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycase Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 listen to Conversations by corn cat to sleep positive and wake up with a boner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontonz1 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 listen to Conversations by corn cat to sleep positive see the difference? its like you've completely thrown your sexually repressive history out the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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