pera Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Is there some Spaniard on this forum? I want to know what's going on in Puerta del Sol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 they're protesting Mexico stealing their language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 After PSN Anonymous is trying to conquer Spain --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ranky Redlof Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 yea just read about it almost nothing in the news about it. Seems like it is spreading to other countries as well Democracia Real YA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamovich Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 *checks in internet what other countries in a world are ruled by dictators regime* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Well i just read a few articles about this and still don't know what it is about, I think they're just complaining about the economy and stuff, and they got pissed because some authority forbid them to meet some day (election day), so they said fuck it and did it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tidbit Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 i didnt expect the spanish .. revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 ok.. I found this: Manifesto We are ordinary people. We are like you: people, who get up every morning to study, work or find a job, people who have family and friends. People, who work hard every day to provide a better future for those around us. Some of us consider ourselves progressive, others conservative. Some of us are believers, some not. Some of us have clearly defined ideologies, others are apolitical, but we are all concerned and angry about the political, economic, and social outlook which we see around us: corruption among politicians, businessmen, bankers, leaving us helpless, without a voice. This situation has become normal, a daily suffering, without hope. But if we join forces, we can change it. It’s time to change things, time to build a better society together. Therefore, we strongly argue that: The priorities of any advanced society must be equality, progress, solidarity, freedom of culture, sustainability and development, welfare and people’s happiness. These are inalienable truths that we should abide by in our society: the right to housing, employment, culture, health, education, political participation, free personal development, and consumer rights for a healthy and happy life. The current status of our government and economic system does not take care of these rights, and in many ways is an obstacle to human progress. Democracy belongs to the people (demos = people, krátos = government) which means that government is made of every one of us. However, in Spain most of the political class does not even listen to us. Politicians should be bringing our voice to the institutions, facilitating the political participation of citizens through direct channels that provide the greatest benefit to the wider society, not to get rich and prosper at our expense, attending only to the dictatorship of major economic powers and holding them in power through a bipartidism headed by the immovable acronym PP & PSOE. Lust for power and its accumulation in only a few; create inequality, tension and injustice, which leads to violence, which we reject. The obsolete and unnatural economic model fuels the social machinery in a growing spiral that consumes itself by enriching a few and sends into poverty the rest. Until the collapse. The will and purpose of the current system is the accumulation of money, not regarding efficiency and the welfare of society. Wasting resources, destroying the planet, creating unemployment and unhappy consumers. Citizens are the gears of a machine designed to enrich a minority which does not regard our needs. We are anonymous, but without us none of this would exist, because we move the world. If as a society we learn to not trust our future to an abstract economy, which never returns benefits for the most, we can eliminate the abuse that we are all suffering. We need an ethical revolution. Instead of placing money above human beings, we shall put it back to our service. We are people, not products. I am not a product of what I buy, why I buy and who I buy from. For all of the above, I am outraged. I think I can change it. I think I can help. I know that together we can.I think I can help. I know that together we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 nobody expects the spanish .. revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 nice manifesto. sounds nice. it's a world wide problem though that is not really within their power to change. would like to see what happens in spain though, i have no idea of their politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Well they've been through fascism and some form of democracy, why not give communism a try! This one I love in particular - "the right to employment". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 It comes across as very naive effort from all the unemployed kids. I don't see a single proposition which would bring more jobs or equality. Well, apart from communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 it does seem naive but i think the first step is to demand transparency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 O, I'd love to see some kind of Assangian transparency. But transparency doesn't help (nor threaten) the current state of the economy, imo. It doesn't create jobs. And it doesn't make the economy grow. I can't help but think that those people have come accustomed to a standard of living which wont come back. Simply because that standard was unsustainable. A revolution won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 I found this nice article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13466977 this movement is something big (I mean: hundreds of thousands of Spaniards on the streets talking about politics and thinking on a new way of government... this is something cool you know) and I hope they can accomplish their goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 So they're basically protesting against capitalism? Godspeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stabilo Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 the spanish revolution is the people trying to change the system, trying to be heard and listened by the actual power. trying to stop the financial nonsense that brought us all to the universal crisis we are through long life to the spanish revolution #acampadasol forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Assangian can we all reach some sort of global agreement whereby nobody ever uses this word ever again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eichel Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 This one I love in particular - "the right to employment". thats even a part of the human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Assangian can we all reach some sort of global agreement whereby nobody ever uses this word ever again? I liked it. It has a nice 'ring' to it. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yesterday there were the municipal elections. Those people doing the "revolution" are the universtity students that will get paid by the government tomorrow. The day before the voting starts it's the "reflexion day" and it's illegal to try to convince someone to vote to someone, to sponsor your party. That's why the congregations were going to be considered illegal, but they weren't. Spain has a really high unemployment percentage, and Spanish politics are like La Liga: PSOE, PP and then the rest of the parties. But the constitution or the law are not to blame; retards who keep voting the same assholes are. tl;rd: hipocrites and retardeds are taking/have already taken my country over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Those people doing the "revolution" are the universtity students that will get paid by the government tomorrow. They will get paid by the people: the government is only an intermediary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamovich Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 TITS OR GTFO More pictures: http://cryptome.org/info/spain-protest/spain-protest.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Those people doing the "revolution" are the universtity students that will get paid by the government tomorrow. They will get paid by the people: the government is only an intermediary. Those people doing the revolution will be the first in the line when the rotten government they're fighting against offers them a workplace or a house. Sorry, I just can't help but disagree with a revolutionary movement that comes with a shelf life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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