sheatheman Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Even though I am a badass producer, I have never come to know the golden secrets of MIDI files and those really dry MIDI type of songs on sites like this. What software is used to create these? Are we talking about trackers? Because it seems like there is a very specific, limited software that is used to create ringtones and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 You can use any software that is capable of saving MIDI files.. I did a lot of stuff for Doom levels using an old version of Cakewalk: But I'm sure newer sequencers exist for pure MIDI file creation. The only reason the songs sound limited is because of the super generic General MIDI sound set used by most soundcards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 great info. tell me more about the General MIDI sound set, because it sounds like this is key. edit. i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. badass producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). that was helpful. thank you. i'm installing reaper now. you guys have provided a nice springboard for this pursuit, albeit a superfluous one. hopefully i'll be jamming to some custom midi ringtones on my iphone soon. i just exported some midi from reason, but it's doing all the tracks as piano. lol. badass producer yeah... maybe "assbad" is a better word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). I thought they just used different codecs that were compatible with the GM2 spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 man i miss General Midi fm synth built into to old PC x86 motherboards i remember being like actually livid when the Doom OST was released and it used those shitty post 1995 sample based midi file sounds. i won't have any of that, i refuse it with a solid gold fist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganus Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu53m4Ym-VU when I read polyphonic ringtone in osc's post, I started humming this to myself, and didn't realize I what I was humming until I got to this post. funny how brains work innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format. It was certainly possible to just create a MIDI file that conformed to the General MIDI spec and then transfer it over to the phone and it'd 'just work', but if you worked in the format that was specific to the ringtones at the time, you would be able to address different sound sets. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the format, and my Google-fu is lacking today. The short of it is that, as Modey says, you should be able to just use any MIDI sequencing software that is capable of working within the General MIDI spec. You will need to use something other than Reason, since Reason's MIDI support is extremely limited (as you have found out). You need to be able to set the MIDI channel per track and send MIDI program change events, something that you cannot do in Reason. You could try downloading Reaper and just running it in trial mode (which is completely unrestricted, it just shows a nag screen for a few seconds on startup). I thought they just used different codecs that were compatible with the GM2 spec? I thought that's what I said anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Oh I must have misunderstood this line: "Polyphonic Ringtones for mobile phones are based on General MIDI but (at least in the early days when Nokia and Ericsson were pushing it) they were a slightly different format" I thought you meant like it was a different MIDI format from GM. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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