caze
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No I'm not, not sure I can engage with you on the other shit if that's what you got out of what I've written already..
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and rightfully so, fix earth first plz. so dumb. did you not listen to what the nye guy was saying? or do I have to spell it out for you again?
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It's not like those kind of morons are anything new though, there's been people bitching about NASA spending since before the moon missions.
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jesus fuck. "...40%" "what's that?" "less than half" lol
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there's also an argument similar to the anthropic argument against that line of thinking (I've not watched the video, so not sure if he addresses this), i.e. it might be unlikely to be the first instance of life to evolve (at least in our region of the galactic supercluster) - which would remove the need for a local filter, but if we are then the likelihood is 100%.
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I'm not. There have been many people, of all political and philosophical stripes who have pointed out these flaws. Adding 'multiplied by technology' is just a weasely move. in some limited sense it might be correct (if you want to reduce it to maths, the value for 'labour' would be tiny), but it's not the prime determinant any more, and hasn't been for some time (it wasn't even in Marx's time in many cases - the data he drew on to form his conclusions was fairly limited). To say the relations of production are largely identical to a hundred years ago is frankly laughable.
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his techno session is pretty amazing as well: edit: oh, it's the same track. this is just the first version.
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I just meant subjective in contrast to Marx's objective sense in his labour theory of value. If we want to get really metaphysical I don't really believe in subjectivity at a fundamental level at all.
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As I've said already Marxist conceptions of value are nonsense (it's almost entirely subjective), his idea of a mode of production also has no relevance to the modern world. Once everyone decides that something has no value, then it ceases to become important - it's just something that is there, it'll be taken for granted. Information is already almost entirely valueless in that sense (despite what will be ultimately futile attempts to retain information scarcity - copyright, etc.), once energy follows suite resources won't be far behind.
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Vada's are great. It's the tamarind sauce that makes it. What's the place?
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I never said we were living in a post-industrial world, though certain nations are already there, it's a simple definition - the value generated from services is greater than the value generated from industrial production, but technological advances should relatively quickly finish the job off world-wide.
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I wasn't even talking about AI there, even without AI we should relatively shortly be entering a post-industrialized world (the only requirement for which is the value of energy to crash, it becomes inevitable after that that resources and industry become incapable of creating value). You're right though that when we factor different possible AIs into the mix can't make firm predictions about what will happen, good or bad. I don't see any good evidence for pessimism on that front though either, there are just as many optimistic speculations one could make.
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1) He did have to, because the technological advances that came along invalidated his assumptions. 2) No he didn't. Attempts at generating fundamental laws for capitalism are fundamentally flawed, that one you mention is not true for a start, and neither is his theory of value. Piketty recently has tried to come up with some new ones, also nonsense. Whether his understanding of capitalism was the same as that of most classical liberals isn't particularly relevant (and it certainly wasn't), as most economists are bullshit artists, whether they're Marxist, Keynesian, classical liberal or libertarian. Economies are simply too complicated (and provably so, due to the nature of nonlinear mathematics) to successfully model with any great predictive power. I'd disagree that any of his analyses hold, and he did make economic predictions, his most glaring failure was to predict workers wages would be inevitably squeezed downwards. I'm well aware Marx's views changed over time, but they didn't change that much. They basically went from "the collapse of capitalism is inevitable and the revolution is around the corner" to "either the collapse will happen soon enough, followed by revolution, or we'll enter a period of capitalistic barbarism", of course neither has happened. Sorry, I thought this was the socialism thread.
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Ha Freud was a quack
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lolwat I don't even know where to start ...I mean, the fact that he "failed to predict...modern technological advances" Is a truly insane criticism He wasn't a futurist He was a critic/theorist of capitalism He also failed to predict beanie babies And Marilyn Manson How the fuck is that even a criticism? It wasn't a criticism per se, just pointing out that his economic predictions were predicated on industrial revolution era tech, and immediately invalidated by modernity.
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'workers' will soon be a thing of the past. we're currently dealing with the final stages of the industrial revolution, marx and his followers have no relevance in a post-industrial world (though in truth their ideas were actually pretty much irrelevant as soon as they were invented - he completely failed to predict, and thus take into account, modern technological advances, that and his faulty ideas on human nature are the reasons). also, having an influence on french philosophy isn't something to be proud of.
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that was amazing.
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a google of 'bandcamp vat' tells me that there was some change in EU law regarding VAT, this was back in December, they must be only implementing it now.
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ALIEN / PROMETHEUS / COVENANT / ROMULUS - SPOILERS INBOUND!!
caze replied to azatoth's topic in General Banter
what a dumb 'journalist' that guy is, should be obvious what he means. It's 'Alien' in that it's in the Alien universe, continuing to explain the genesis of the xenomorph, but it's not an Alien movie in that it won't have any of the xenos we all know and love in it. -
did you figure out what happened there? did he just raise the price, or have bandcamp started adding VAT where there was no VAT before?
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Then your reply to my point is irrelevant, as that specific bit was about centrally planned economies. I didn't do this, I gave various flavours of socialism and discussed the pros and cons of each.
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ALIEN / PROMETHEUS / COVENANT / ROMULUS - SPOILERS INBOUND!!
caze replied to azatoth's topic in General Banter
Prometheus was great. -
first time I'd noticed the VAT thing as well.
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#14 has arrived! https://aleksiperala.bandcamp.com/album/the-colundi-sequence-level-14 Aleksi has definitely earned himself a very long holiday after all this incredible music.
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Japanese and South Korean growth in the 1960s through 1980s would beg to differ. Both of these nations utilized significant state intervention in their economic growth. neither were centrally planned economies, they were examples of your standard protectionist Keynesians if anything. externalities can always tip the scale, see Norway for a more modern example. utilizing strategic state intervention is not what I was talking about, though even strategic intervention has it's limitations, and will fail eventually in most cases.
