Zephyr_Nova

A really pretty 25 year old woman from the apps invited me out for a drink on Monday, but I feel almost like I'm being unfaithful to one of the others who I've been chatting with longer (and we've become pretty close). I'm still going, obviously. It's a weird, new kind of predicament.

Chris Cuntingham Begeteth (Christian Megadeth cover band)

Sesame seeds on the crust is an excellent idea. I see the good in everything.

It proves he has nothing to hide, because it would be insane to write a detailed novel about how you'd kill your girlfriend if you actually did do that. OJ = most innocent non-murdering-psychopath of all time.

That guy even wrote a book about how he'd murder his girlfriend, in some pretend universe where he actually did that.

Unlikely to be much if anything in the way of hard evidence, as is going to be the case in most such scenarios. But the numerous people coming forward who experienced it is pretty damning, especially combined with things he's said and written himself. The likelihood of it being 100% fabricated bullshit? Highly unlikely. I doubt he'll be found guilty of anything in court though.

His music was only ever as good as whoever was producing it. Love the sound of the albums up to and including Mechanical Animals. Everything after that was retreading old ideas and making them sound like KMFDM. And yeah, this is prob the least surprising of all the outed predators of the last 5 years.

Guy at 2:17 won that banquet.

"I will rest in peace you apart"? Makes no sense. actually that's pretty good.

Tear and tear should have different spellings. Whoever invented the english language wasn't even trying.

Remember that time Sean posted in here? That was a wild time.

My throat is really dry after viewing all these.

the cloak and hat showering one that kicks things off is pretty good.

I think that's the one where I got the mysterious torrent that downloaded more than its own file size while also being 0% complete. For whatever reason, I can't successfully download torrents from any site that isn't piratebay. It's been that way on any computer I've ever owned.

Oh god this was the bane of my existence for like a month straight. PTSD triggered... and no I can't help because nothing I tried ever converted it properly.

That's what I get for going anywhere other than piratebay for my torrents (it was down earlier). Grabbed a different one off pirate bay and it's already at 33%. Is it just me, or do no other torrent sites ever host anything that works?

Torrenting "The Last Waltz". The file is supposed to be 2.2 gigs. Bit torrent says I've downloaded 2.3 gigs of the file, and that it is 0% done. What the shit is this?

WTF @ the Edward Furlong one - why? Cripsin Glover one's actually awesome.

I want to believe.

I think it's more that the people making the music tend to be thoughtful, and find a lot of the really commercial stuff out there to be cheesy/disposable. So naturally they don't want to be associated with it, but I don't think their issue is that more mainstream artists are making good money. It's more that it tends to be rather insubstantial, slick production aside... or "kind of shit" as they say. The IDM scene is so scattered that I don't think any unifying ethos was ever really established, beyond the creative approach to making it. But there is a sort of person who's more likely to gravitate towards it of course.

1. Some people have mentioned that listeners 'grow' into IDM/braindance, or that there is a bar of entry to the music/community. When I got into IDM, it was at a time where I was interested in electronic music, but put off by too much repetition/simplicity, predictable beat patterns, and production that was far less advanced than what I was expecting, considering that's where all the new technology was being explored (in theory). I always loved the sounds that would come up in techno/industrial/whatever, but after 8 bars I'd be be bored. It seemed like there was so much more room to be more melodic, more creative with the beats, more complex, more original. Since it was an area of music unhindered by the limitations of human performance, the compositional possibilities were endless. So why was it all so basic? That was my frustration with electronic music in general, with my fairly limited cultural understanding of it. Then I heard Confield/Druqs and was like "fucking finally." Confield was such a relief to hear - loved it immediately. Drukqs I was weirded out by some of the production choices, but I found it extremely compelling, and probably listened to it more than any other album the year I bought it. With Squarepusher my first reaction was "this sounds like a frustrated jazz musician who couldn't find a drummer to keep up" hahaha... which I think is a pretty fair assessment for much of it. Then I heard Go Plastic and had my world blown open once again. Anyway... how does this relate to the question... Oh right, so as for "growing in" to IDM - it was more a case of other electronic music not fitting in with where I was at in my own musical growth, and finally finding an electronic movement that appealed to my musical sensibilities. I was also making music at that point that was in the same realm, although with more industrial influence. Would have been labeled "dark IDM" or some shit ahahaha... 2. I believe there are oppositional values in IDM, both in the popular images of big name artists (AFX, au, BoC, Squarepusher) and in the musical texts associated with the music (AI series, Rephlex braindance statement, squarepusher manifesto, The Philosophy of Sound and Machine). Oppositional in the sense that they reject mainstream, commercial EDM values, but hypocritical to a degree, in the sense that artists still need to make money and 'settle' with the reality of the multi-billion dollar industry. This idea comes from the fact that IDM/braindance is rooted in the rave scene which was considered oppositional. Is there a message inherent in this music? Absolutely not. Individual artists may have their own messages, but I think that's pretty rare in this scene. Most make it out of the pure joy of self-expression. I find the idea of anyone here making it for reasons beyond that quite unlikely. I doubt any of us would be conflicted about suddenly being able to make a living from our music.

How is it 5:55am already?