modey Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 ok, i just had this idea talking to my girlfriend about stockhausen. basically someone draws up a non-standard score for a piece of music, with the freedom to go completely crazy, but doesn't give any guidelines as to what the notation means, or the duration - it's all up to the individual performer/producer to interpret and make into a track. what do you cunts think? good or absolute wank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 here is the score it's the most obvious choice!! reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 interesting, but i was thinking something a bit less 'grid' oriented. it could work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 That could be a piano roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 there are many angles you could approach it... hence being good compilation material. personally, i think i would try to imagine some alien civilization receiving it and interpreting it as a piece of music. how the recording of their resulting music would sound, i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think Arecibo message is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 the image i posted above is actually a dressed-up representation... the real Aricebo Message is just a string of binary data. max/msp/etc. users delight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spraaaa Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 heh, I just got this working with bidule like 2 minutes ago! maybe I'll do something like this to test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aces Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Sounds like a fun idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 ok, I finished the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springymajig Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 That is a cool idea! I think I'd probably have time for it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'm down. dood. This thing looks wicked. Going to try to make a PD patch to make it send midi. Ever seen a John Cage score? «Williams Mix» Cage’s first composition for tape recorder already goes to the limits of the medium. Commenting on his score, Cage explains: «This is a score (192 pages) for making music on magnetic tape. Each page has two systems comprising eight lines each. These eight lines are eight tracks of tape and they are pictured full-size so that the score constitutes a pattern for the cutting of tape and its splicing. All recorded sounds are placed in six categories ... Approximately 600 recordings are necessary to make a version of this piece. The composing means were chance operations dervied from the I-Ching.» Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 lol that thing is shit, look up a UPIC faggot. ( No offense to Geiske I love the guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'm down. dood. This thing looks wicked. Going to try to make a PD patch to make it send midi. Ever seen a John Cage score? Definitely, his scores vary pretty wildly. I still have no idea what the score for his Fontana Mix series are telling me: George Crumb's 'Black Angels' is also a monster of a score. It's dimensions are about 2' x 2'. It's ridiculous to carry around under your arm. Really interesting notation. I would definitely recommend looking it up along with the Kronos Quartet's performance. Anthony Braxton, the sax player and composer, has some pretty bizarre interpretive scores as well. 20th century music scores can get pretty far out there, if I do say so. And I do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 13, 2009 Author Share Posted February 13, 2009 ok, these are all nice ideas, but how are we gonna decide on something? i was thinking that we nominate someone to actually come up with something original, rather than use something existing. though some of the stuff that has been posted so far has been interesting. shall we limit it to a solo instrument/synth, or do you cunce wanna go crazy with instrumentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 fuck limits, just see what everyone comes up with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 So you think someone should actually write some new score? There is so much work and theory behind these scores that it would take years for someone to write something that wasn't just gibberish. It would be cool to do a john cage score...can you even find them anywhere? Limits could be cool, but also the score is so open to interpretation that limiting the construction of the music might make certain interpretations impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 So you think someone should actually write some new score? There is so much work and theory behind these scores that it would take years for someone to write something that wasn't just gibberish. well i guess that was the point, having someone draw up something arbitrary and we all try to make sense of it in some way.. though i guess a john cage score would be the same effect anyway, unless some of us have actually heard the piece in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spraaaa Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 omg I tried so hard to find a copy of la monte young's compositions book one time... don't remember what it was called but I read it had stuff like above but also instructions like "draw a straight line" or "get a bucket of water and some straw, feed the piano until it is happy." ligeti had some really badass visual scores too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spraaaa Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 yeah, whenever I tried to look that up though I just got results for one of the compositions that lots of people had performed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 This is such a cool idea, you better not ruin this i am up for a new arbitrary score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I can do something tonight maybe.... I'll something if I get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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