Guest Conor74 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ...would you stick by him? Case involving serious sexual assault just hit all the headlines here, has got the whole country talking. Yesterday a man who had been convicted of sexual assault was due for sentencing and about 50 of his friends and neighbours queued up to hug him. He got 7 years jail. And of course the media and most contributors are repulsed at the show of support for him from his community. The whole country up in arms, I'd say phone in show hosts are nearly wetting themselves with the excitement. It's got it all, a letter from a priest saying he was not the abusive type, alcohol, a rural community closing ranks, the town v country debate again. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838823.html So if you knew someone charged with a crime like this (or to make it easier, if a friend was charged with say serious assault), would you stick by him? Gotta admit my first reaction was disgust, but when I think about it I'm not so sure - had a friend who was up for a serious assault a couple of years back and we all stood with him - he was acquitted but only on a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 how bad was the crime though? was it actual proper rape, or just drunk sex gone bad that they've called rape? i'd stick by a friend if it was the latter. i doubt i'd be friends with anyone who would consider doing the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 he's obviously a bad, bad man. just look at that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'd consider myself a pretty morale person (eh Keltoi!?) but honestly, if my friend had raped someone I wouldn't be able to look at them without feeling angry and disgusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 a friend of a friend of mine in Worcester got put away for 2 years and on the sex offenders register for life, for banging a girl in a club who afterwards turned out to be underage. she told him she was 18 and she was the one initiating all the sex and stuff. if i actually knew that dude properly i'd give him a big pre-prison bear hug. (that was supposed to be edited into my first post but it didnt work lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 LOL a bit more of a smile and we would have an RDJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IRARI Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 how bad was the crime though? was it actual proper rape, or just drunk sex gone bad that they've called rape? i'd stick by a friend if it was the latter. i doubt i'd be friends with anyone who would consider doing the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conor74 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 how bad was the crime though? was it actual proper rape, or just drunk sex gone bad that they've called rape? Hard to know. It wasn't actually rape, I think more a serious sexual assault, though she was found semi naked and bruised so it wasn't just "chancing it on" either. There is a general undercurrent that she may have had a poor reputation (which may account for the community reaction), and allegedly she was out saying she wanted drink to get drunk. On the other hand by all accounts she is a tiny woman and he is a bouncer, and he initially claimed she consented and persisted with this version until he saw the cctv footage which showed him dragging her off the street. It reminds me a bit of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 how tiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 In that case I say yes. We rape her. What was the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Wasnt rape but sexual assault. Somewhere in Kerry yeah? Backwards place altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conor74 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Wasnt rape but sexual assault. Somewhere in Kerry yeah? Backwards place altogether. Kerry has no case to answer. It was a jury of Kerry people that convicted him. In Cork they elect those who stick up for rapists... http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0421/rape.html In Dublin...well in Dublin they're all just too strung out to care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 if he committed a crime like rape, then fuck no, he may be a friend but rape is rape, won't stand by that. i tell my friends when they fuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 All my friends are rapists, it's how we met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest epsy Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I've cut off communication with people I had met once learning they were on the sex offender registry shortly after meeting them. After going through a nasty divorce, I realize that good people can be a victim of shitty circumstance when a court is involved. I'm sure it's no different with people being accused of rape. I also have 2 children, and it's just not something I am willing to take a chance on, befriending sex offenders and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 but what if he tells you that he was really really horny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 "sir i would appreciate it if you didn't call me a rapist" "WELL THEN DON'T RAPE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 "sir i would appreciate it if you didn't call me a rapist" "WELL THEN DON'T RAPE!" hamburger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brachiosaur Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 What if you friend raped you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 A 'friend' of 15 years and one of my housemates at the time was arrested for rape, and on bail for 5 months. I stood by him initially, but after the CPS decided to take no further action, I cut him off. The reasons for both were complicated to say the least and influenced by other factors, and watmm probably isn't the best place to air them. Did he do it? Don't know, don't care, neither of the people involved could in any sense be described as reliable witnesses, and it was more towards the drunk fuck up date rape side of the scale than knife, gaffer tape and public park. He was a repulsive person so I have no sympathy, but I could imagine it being an unpleasant experience for an innocent person(obviously). The police turned up at his work to arrest him and he was suspended (on full pay) immediately until cleared. Got the impression that the police knew there was no chance of a conviction from the outset and were going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 "sir i would appreciate it if you didn't call me a rapist" "WELL THEN DON'T RAPE!" hamburger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 What if you friend raped you but what if he was really really horny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brachiosaur Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I passed out after a work-out at the gym once, I may have said this before. I woke up on the floor in the showers and some old guy was wondering if I was ok. He may have had his way with me while I was unconscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 was there any semen in/on you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brachiosaur Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Just my own ofc well it tasted like mine anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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