Guest inteeliguntdesign Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I've ignored all the Top Gear/Mexican insult stuff. One Mexican friend got quite pissed off. Never been a big fan on Clarkson et al, anyway. I did read Coogan's Guardian piece after everyone kept Tweeting it. A bit lame at the start but it does have two awesome points. "I've been fortunate enough to work with the likes of [some of the best names in British comedy] ... with one common denominator: they could all defend and justify their comedy from a moral standpoint. Top Gear is three rich, middle-aged men laughing at poor Mexicans. Brave, groundbreaking stuff, eh?" And "Sometimes, it's true, things need a shakeup; orthodoxies need to be challenged. But this sort of ironic approach has been a licence for any halfwit to vent the prejudices they'd been keeping in the closet since Love Thy Neighbour was taken off the air." Then I realised I am seriously in love with Stewart Lee. Blows Coogan out of the water. Gets going at 2.30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0i0RXMvzMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I usually don't get bothered by this sort of humour, but in this case it did. It's not the first time Top Gear disses or jokes about some country, but this time it seemed really inorganic and just went on and on. One or two jabs at Mexico would be funny, but it continued and made it feel like some writer really has it in for Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 it caused quite an uproar over here. i don't mind really, although they did kinda take it a bit too far in the wrong direction, but people should just lighten up. it's not like brits aren't full of stereotyped stuff to make fun of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Wow, that Stewart Lee bit was... wow. Spot on. I loathe Hammond and I never really knew why, but he just nails it, perfectly. Clarkson is a fat stupid cunt but I mean, look at the guy. Hard to take him seriously. And James May is adorrrrrrrbz. But yeah, the racism and right wing bullshit just drives me batty. And I don't give a shit about cars. I hate living with people who give a shit about cars. The specials are cool, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 moronic programme by wankers for wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 And James May is adorrrrrrrbz. no he isn't he's a cunt who looks like a cunt who looks like he listens to prog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 And James May is adorrrrrrrbz. no he isn't he's a cunt who looks like a cunt who looks like he listens to prog yes well no one said i had good taste in men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 That Stewart Lee dude is annoying, unfunny, and got seriously trolled by Top Gear, what a wanker. Hammond is a stupid cunt, but who needs yet another cunt to explain that to them. And since when does WATMM get its collective knickers in a twist over a caricaturization of preconceptions some people may have about Mexican cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I'm not saying that I disagree with everything he was talking about but I didn't find that very funny. I'm quite bored now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caretstik Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The video's too long for me to be arsed watching just now, but the Top Gear thing just goes to show how far fawning public adulation has driven Clarkson et al up their own arses that they think they can get away with saying anything about anyone. Didn't they also own up to making sexist remarks about a female paramedic or something recently as well after Andy Gray got sacked? I'm not trying to have some liberal PC tirade here, just sick of cunts like those on Top Gear and cocks like Jonathan Ross (who still seems to fucking be around after that Andrew Sachs palaver) who seem to get away with, not just deliberately making ill-advised comments that a lot of people in normal jobs would get sacked for, but also being irritating and talentless cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Top Gear was fun at the start but has been an over budgeted parody of itself for a while now cue camera filters, hip soundtrack, fancy edits, wheel spins, a lap with the stig and cue three egocentric twats trying to be fresh entertaining glad I don't pay my licence fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Andy Gray irritating and talentless cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 sticks and stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gump Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Then I realised I am seriously in love with Stewart Lee. Blows Coogan out of the water. Gets going at 2.30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0i0RXMvzMs don't be so stupid. that vid was boring, even more boring than top gear itself. i agree with the hammond hating, can't stick that wee bastard. i also agree that top gear is shite now. however.... if we as a country go down the road of not slagging anyone off as it is offensive then we are fucked, even more fucked than we already are. at this moment in time it is all we have left ffs. as for the offended and those who worry about others being offended then listen to what this fella has to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Love this extension of The Trip in Coogan's column: "I've been fortunate enough to work with the likes of Peter Baynham, Armando Iannucci, Chris Morris, Simon Pegg, Julia Davis, Caroline Aherne, Ruth Jones, and the Mighty Boosh – some of the funniest and most innovative people in British comedy. And Rob Brydon too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inteeliguntdesign Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 if we as a country go down the road of not slagging anyone off as it is offensive then we are fucked, even more fucked than we already are. at this moment in time it is all we have left ffs. Neither of them argued for not slagging anyone off. Lee's video WAS slagging off someone, but it was done with a fucking purpose. That was the whole point of the video: that slagging someone off when you've got a moral/ethical point to make is fine, but not when it's purely to vent your bigoted views--that is, when you just want to have a go at someone different from you--then you're a cunt. It's me having a go at you because I think you're wrong, as opposed to because you're a stupid inbred English twat. (that was ironic, incidentally: I think we're both from the modern master-race). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caretstik Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I didn't so much take offence at the comments in Top Gear as the fact that the 'presenters' just think they can do what they want and are so smug and arrogant about it. Like they feel they're indispensable to popular entertainment and have the Beeb over a barrel (which they may well do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gump Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 the thing is though...... we are still talking about it. couldn't it just be that the bbc like this...... the whole joke ross saga and the top gear saga keeping the public interested. how many people watch these guys on t.v just waiting for them to say something to jump on? a shit load if you ask me. as the saying goes....publicity be it good or bad is still publicity. that's it, the next time someone on t.v says that us 'jocks' drink too much, eat fried mars bars and will all die before we are 60 because of the fatty epidemic, i am making a complaint on the grounds of racism......i won't though as i hear it all the time and it is true and tbh i couldn't give two fucks. if you ask me, those who complain about shit they here in the press or on t.v are only playing into the hands of the media. it's all pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 i love mexican jokes! last night i was out with some friends wine bar hopping and one of my wife's friends called her a beaner... I loled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 the thing is though...... we are still talking about it. couldn't it just be that the bbc like this...... the whole joke ross saga and the top gear saga keeping the public interested. how many people watch these guys on t.v just waiting for them to say something to jump on? a shit load if you ask me. as the saying goes....publicity be it good or bad is still publicity. that's it, the next time someone on t.v says that us 'jocks' drink too much, eat fried mars bars and will all die before we are 60 because of the fatty epidemic, i am making a complaint on the grounds of racism......i won't though as i hear it all the time and it is true and tbh i couldn't give two fucks. if you ask me, those who complain about shit they here in the press or on t.v are only playing into the hands of the media. it's all pish Wow, that much writing and you managed to make no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest couch Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I don't watch the show but I have a good idea of all the mexican car modding stereotypes that they could make fun of. That's what they did right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 ok, i started the video at 2:30, no mention of mexico by 3:30... and that's your quota of my attention span for today. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gump Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 the thing is though...... we are still talking about it. couldn't it just be that the bbc like this...... the whole joke ross saga and the top gear saga keeping the public interested. how many people watch these guys on t.v just waiting for them to say something to jump on? a shit load if you ask me. as the saying goes....publicity be it good or bad is still publicity. that's it, the next time someone on t.v says that us 'jocks' drink too much, eat fried mars bars and will all die before we are 60 because of the fatty epidemic, i am making a complaint on the grounds of racism......i won't though as i hear it all the time and it is true and tbh i couldn't give two fucks. if you ask me, those who complain about shit they here in the press or on t.v are only playing into the hands of the media. it's all pish Wow, that much writing and you managed to make no point. you got it in one. there is no point to be made. "it's all pish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inteeliguntdesign Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 ok, i started the video at 2:30, no mention of mexico by 3:30... and that's your quota of my attention span for today. sorry Yeah, sorry. It's really about Top Gear's humour and the one who was in the car crash in general, sparked by the recent insults. Stewart Lee's comedy does take a bit of persistence at first. Kind of makes you uneasy and uncertain about what he's getting at first. Worth it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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