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yeah, this is sad on so many levels. not that corporations stay out of funding elections as it is, but legitimizing it can't be the right way to go.

 

welp, another day, another america. see you tomorrow.

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what's funny about this to me is that corporations already find a multitude of ways to use loopholes or get around the laws to influence elections, a big example is mainstream television media channels: cnn, foxnews, msnbc, nbc, abc. This supreme court ruling is merely putting an official stamp on what is already rampant and totally out of control

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This is fucking retarded... seriously. What the fuck? They need to do the OPPOSITE! Limit market influence on politics, not promote it.. What the fuck... I'm all about the free market, but not in regards to public service. They already answer to the highest dollar, and look where that got us, now they loosen the restrictions on it?! For fucks sake.

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This is fucking retarded... seriously. What the fuck? They need to do the OPPOSITE! Limit market influence on politics, not promote it.. What the fuck... I'm all about the free market, but not in regards to public service. They already answer to the highest dollar, and look where that got us, now they loosen the restrictions on it?! For fucks sake.

 

exactly. its so insane. is anyone opposing this? anyone? or have they been paid off to shut up already?

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who cares elections are merely an illusion that you have a choice

"I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"

qft

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This is fucking retarded... seriously. What the fuck? They need to do the OPPOSITE! Limit market influence on politics, not promote it.. What the fuck... I'm all about the free market, but not in regards to public service. They already answer to the highest dollar, and look where that got us, now they loosen the restrictions on it?! For fucks sake.

I agree.

 

Cream soda toast. :beer:

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The Supreme court ruled this as a free speech issue and that restricting corporations from funding campaigns would be obstructing their free speech. This is I agree with. What I don't agree with however is how corporations can be classified as people under the 14th amendment. If individual human beings acted in the manner that corporations act, they would be thrown into prison.

 

Here's a quick essay that argues how under the DSM corporate entities would qualify as psychopathic: http://www.zerowaste.ca/articles/column196.html

 

Using the World Health Organization’s checklist for personality types and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Bakan concludes the corporation is a psychopathic personality. A corporation has a callous unconcern for the feelings of others; an incapacity to maintain enduring relationships; a reckless disregard for the safety of others; a pattern of deceitfulness; an incapacity to experience guilt; failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviour. This is the institution that we allow to govern all aspects of our lives.

 

Also, a little Grace Jones for your enjoyment:

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exactly. its so insane. is anyone opposing this? anyone? or have they been paid off to shut up already?

 

did you even read the article?

 

Hours after the ruling, President Obama responded, saying the court has given "the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington -- while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates."

 

In a statement, he said he is telling his administration "to get to work immediately with Congress on this issue. We are going to talk with bipartisan congressional leaders to develop a forceful response to this decision. The public interest requires nothing less."

 

"The Supreme Court has given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics," Obama said. "It is a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans."

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"the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington -- while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates."

 

sounds to me like he could be describing his own 'stimulus' and health insurance plan.

 

the only time Obama talks badly about wall street is in the moment when it is politically popular to do so, and quickly turns the other way when its not

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The Supreme court ruled this as a free speech issue and that restricting corporations from funding campaigns would be obstructing their free speech. This is I agree with. What I don't agree with however is how corporations can be classified as people under the 14th amendment. If individual human beings acted in the manner that corporations act, they would be thrown into prison.

 

 

 

Holy shit! Someone who gets it!

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"the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington -- while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates."
sounds to me like he could be describing his own 'stimulus' and health insurance plan. the only time Obama talks badly about wall street is in the moment when it is politically popular to do so, and quickly turns the other way when its not

 

Lobbyists have a hold on everyone, and Obama is hardly alone. With very few execptions (people like Kucinich or Ron Paul, arguably) all of congress will be happy as hell about this and take advantage of this ruling. Dems just cover up corporate donations better than Republicans, who don't even try.

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The Supreme court ruled this as a free speech issue and that restricting corporations from funding campaigns would be obstructing their free speech. This is I agree with. What I don't agree with however is how corporations can be classified as people under the 14th amendment. If individual human beings acted in the manner that corporations act, they would be thrown into prison.

 

 

 

Holy shit! Someone who gets it!

 

yeah yeah we all saw that documentary

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