Guest chunky Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 it was american teenagers making something nothing to do with aphex twin then pretending it was the same style lucky ceephax/analord showed them the truth the truth is to go back to obsessing over Ronald gear? I love both of their output but what the hell. Im guessing your post was in jest you conflating acid with general electronic music whose history goes back to late 1800s ceephax/analord is acid forms mostly but the ideas in that music applies to the whole of electronic music from this point forward the important point now is for people to do electronics, build our own everything... synths, drum machines, etc etc things will be less Roland 303, more WATMM 5000 Ultrasynth the truth is to go back to electronics and music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chunky Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 ps hahaha all sesame street people thats what they all said in 2003 about analod ideas before analord came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 it's not the glitches that bug me... it's the randomness. in fact I quite like the glitch aesthetic, but it seems to have been adopted by lazy people that can't tell the difference between intent and controlled randomness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 i think Shock Diamonds by Datach'i is another example of it being done well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 you conflating acid with general electronic music whose history goes back to late 1800s Have you been drinking again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 you conflating acid with general electronic music whose history goes back to late 1800s yea about the late 1800's, but what...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chunky Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 xxx: britishelectronicmusic.co.uk in the uk we used to have british airways, british rail, british gas, british telecom etc etc all with cool logos and designs basically the name is just an aesthetic decision and a small protest at prime minister thatcher demolishing the nationalised industries of britain all people from all countries/nations/etc welcome... "I came to electronic music for the sound but I stayed and continue to stay for the concept of no nations, no boundaries, no races, no Jews, no Arabs, no Catholics, no Protestants, in some cases--no faces." hmm!! yes... the name is an aesthetic decision and small (miniature) political protest... and maybe a slight protest against the fake american genre called 'idm'... actually it's quite funny how you can mean one thing and people take it as another meaning that wasn't intended yes britishelectronicmusic.... not rolandelectronicmusic :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 This is the most inane thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masonic Boom Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I came to electronic music for the sound but I stayed and continue to stay for the concept of no nations, no boundaries, no races, no Jews, no Arabs, no Catholics, no Protestants, in some cases--no faces. Just the dancefloor or your bedroom with headphones at full tilt. PLURalism, amirite? xxx just came up with that on the dot, he'll be here all night folks, don't forget to tip your waitresses and try the pot roast.... I agree in theory, totally. However, do you notice any ... omissions in your laundry list of diversity? This is why "IDM" is kind of a red-flag term for me, signifying as it does, that it means Electronic Dance Music as made OK to listen to for straight, (mostly white), cis males - as opposed for all that "non-intelligent" Electronic or Dance Music as enjoyed by homosexuals, blacks, women, bisexual black trans women on welfare and tigers and bears, oh my. In this whole PLURalism thing, what people leave out is often just as important as what they're "inclusive" about. Not having a go, XXX, just sayin', like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 only good comment is the intent vs. randomness thing. I get that a lot with vsnares like when he just randomly changes the nature of the sounds like just some beatboxing or dog barking or jello commercial out of nowhere where I imagine it could've been some glitchy stuff just as well because the intent is there. I love the fact that he can make like a mario coin sound sound sad somehow that is a better demonstration of musical knowledge to me than whoooa glitch madness it's out of controllll (semi-true story supposedly Twirl samples the mario 'oof' sound from Mario 64) also on the flipside he can make you dance like an idiot to samples of torture or whatever like it's the grooviest thing ever made Milk remix is cool too what is that just some random lady comedian from comedy central? Essentially it's the same thing as like youtube poop auto-tune the news just making music out of the most mundane point in your life where you wish there were awesome choons going on except erm... more competently done but that was the only semi-good point just make this dream music you want to hear so badly you fgts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 randomness or the context randomness is intently placed in? where would new electronic music be without a little serendipity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 who cares! ? England have just lost 4-1 to fucking Germany FFS ! you like what you like, like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 it's not the glitches that bug me... it's the randomness. in fact I quite like the glitch aesthetic, but it seems to have been adopted by lazy people that can't tell the difference between intent and controlled randomness. everything is controlled randomness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 please stop talking about plur, before you know it we'll have frankie bones trolling the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Ugh this thread... its like hippie vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 it's not the glitches that bug me... it's the randomness. in fact I quite like the glitch aesthetic, but it seems to have been adopted by lazy people that can't tell the difference between intent and controlled randomness. everything is controlled randomness. i think you know what i meant. but if it makes you shut up: "yes, you are right... very clever lad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 This is why I'm so excited for Macc & dgHon. lots more where that came from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnQquAueQc New 20 track album by Polska ^ out today ! Audio compilations of CD1 (D&B) & CD2 (Downtempo / Breakbeat / Jazz) below in the youtube videos below ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ryWHLMkGyE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnHMdjLtQ4 ... as for the whole glitch thing - it's like alot of things in music, some people use it as a default option, whereas others use it if and when it's needed to get across an idea. If it's used by the former it's usually a bit crap and if it's used by the latter it's usually more inspired ! The big problem is the clutter (that surrounds all styles, aesthetics in popular electronic music). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 This is why I'm so excited for Macc & dgHon. lots more where that came from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnQquAueQc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-glvjB9egk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwxo_A1eCwc Christ man, thanks for making me have another crisis e.g. so much great music > bank statements. Seriously though, tight shit, you took my words and sourced out exactly what I'm down for. Duly noted it was american teenagers making something nothing to do with aphex twin then pretending it was the same style lucky ceephax/analord showed them the truth now soon there will be some further electronics truth coming out then USA might do some proper music for a change instead of yuck autechre yuck or the yucky USA fake genres like glitch and idm yuck out of all the "idm" groups id say the only good one was called nautilus on planetmu records. the rest were conned by fake philosophy of fake american idm genre. thanks god thats over. about time idm died, fake genre of america that it always been hehe. indeed regardless of whether or not that post was supposed to be taken seriously it was american teenagers making something nothing to do with aphex twin then pretending it was the same style lucky ceephax/analord showed them the truth the truth is to go back to obsessing over Ronald gear? I love both of their output but what the hell. Im guessing your post was in jest I think Chunky is serious--I believe him to be the most nationalistic music listener I've seen on WATMM. It's no longer in his signature but he used to have links for two options: one was just "electronic music forums" and the other said "British electronic music forums". Now, he could be taking the piss; I still have his epic "Fart 909" drum machine customized for Warp Records complete with curled turd on top No one would question the contribution of the UK (can't believe I'm talking about this lol!) to electronic music and that other producers of American nationality and beyond have been "schooled" by your national treasures of RDJ/Squarepusher/Vibert, etc. But go ask them what got them started in the first place? Detroit, Michigan (suburb: Belleville) 1985 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtkpjkpD8xQ Southside Chicago, Illinois 1988 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFuujExs03A Back to the Belleville suburb of Detroit, Michigan 1988 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcVdg3aZjGE But, it's not even about that anymore--Germany was liberated and united in 1989 and embraced techno as their revolution music, the Japanese go weird and hardcore (Ken Ishii/Merzbow/Ryoji Ikeda/etc.), and it goes on and on. I came to electronic music for the sound but I stayed and continue to stay for the concept of no nations, no boundaries, no races, no Jews, no Arabs, no Catholics, no Protestants, in some cases--no faces. Just the dancefloor or your bedroom with headphones at full tilt. PLURalism, amirite? xxx just came up with that on the dot, he'll be here all night folks, don't forget to tip your waitresses and try the pot roast.... gotta say whilst rereading this thread I had to take a moment and take off my hat for one of GOAT posters of watmm history, XXX. damn. bravo and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 back when people were writing what would know be considered a FACT thinkpiece left and right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marian Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 back when people were writing what would know be considered a FACT thinkpiece left and right just read this whole thread cuz you bumped it and every 2nd post i had do stop to check who wrote it to make sure it wasn't supposed to be ironic srsly, 2 pages of people debating about "intent" or "randomness", likes it's 1950 or sth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 isn't it funny (depressing) how times have (sort of) changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purlieu Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I came to electronic music for the sound but I stayed and continue to stay for the concept of [...] no Jews, no Arabs *screencaps and puts on Tumblr* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetSquirrely Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 bit_meddler did the glitchy hiphop style the best, his tracks are still top wish he'd done more, this track is one of my favs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I miss the days of dblue glitch abuse, at least idm felt somewhat relevant. I didn't know it would end up a special interest hobby exclusively for virgin male basement dwellers on the spectrum, and the 8 other guys who procrastinate on watmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Cheap shots at virgins, spectrum surfers, and other species of outcasts aside, I think the idea of relevance itself is less relevant you're taking it for granted to be. What was interesting about "glitch" in the first place was the hedonistic aesthetic indulgence and that is fucking exactly what I want from art. I still hold the naive belief that people, even "normies", will respond to Good Shit wherever it avails, even if it doesn't have sufficient likes/reposts for the Anointed Relevance Algorithms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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