o00o Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The coming months will see a new world, where global history is redefined. Keep us strong Next release is 7x the size of the Iraq War Logs. intense pressure over it for months. Keep us strong Source: http://www.facebook.com/wikileaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
encey Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I hear Lil Wayne guest verses on that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The coming months will see a new world, where global history is redefined. Keep us strong lol, I doubt it will, the iraq war logs taught us not much actually. What ? Civils have been murdered ? Soldiers have been tortured ???? Who could have guessed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Is this going to be like last time they started building hype? 30mins of 5 Iraqi's being unjustly shot. C'mon, wikileaks, tell us you bought the fucking golf shoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 what they don't mention is it's actually a list of the girls groped by julian assange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 They are going to release Snare's e-mails to Joyrex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7oVmjzgp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The coming months will see a new world, where global history is redefined. Keep us strong Next release is 7x the size of the Iraq War Logs. intense pressure over it for months. Keep us strong Source: http://www.facebook.com/wikileaks *enormous 15 minute torrent of nonstop laughter* well done wikileaks, you have opened the eyes of all 24 americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7oVmjzgp4 LOL wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 I wonder if its about 9/11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I wonder if its about 9/11 2 TWRS DSTRO BY TRRRORSTSPRES NOO ABT IT No Kidding wikileaks !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AcrossCanyons Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 They are going to release Snare's e-mails to Joyrex. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 what they don't mention is it's actually a list of the girls groped by julian assange yeah i was disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 You guys seem awfully flippant about an organization that offers dissenters a way to share sensitive documents that otherwise would be extremely difficult to publish. Surely you all recognize the significance of an organization like this, right? I just hope none of you are taking this for granted, because all I see is a lot of mockery over some silly wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 whether assange is the perv that he is made out to be or not is irrelevant at this point. he should realise that him being the tangible 'face' of wikileaks is now damaging the organisation. and as a result he should step down. (the motivation behind/originator of the accusations if he is not in fact the perv that he is made out to be is a whole different question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I hope Wikileaks is going to disclose the existence of reptilian humanoids with visual evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Surely you all recognize the significance of an organization like this, right? No. They can post as many documents as they want to, and newspapers all over the world will be like "Omgz!" but it never leads to anything anyway, so unless they post pictures/videos of George Bush high fiving Osama Bin Laden it simply won't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 They are going to release Snare's e-mails to Joyrex. lol lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What Wikileaks thinks is "free speech", etc. is just clumsy, arrogant and ignorant, considering they didn't stop to consider the lives they put at risk by releasing such documents - from the front line troops to the operatives working behind enemy lines. I'm not judging whether the content constituted war crimes or was unjust, but exposing confidential information that endangers people is just irresponsible. What's worse, is the supplier(s) of the intel to Wikileaks share the same misguided ideals and clearly haven't stopped to assess the potential consequences of their actions. It would be one thing to release these documents AFTER the conflict was over, to expose the injustices undoubtedly committed by the players involved, but doing so during the conflict is just wrong, IMO, especially when it endangers lives needlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 You guys seem awfully flippant about an organization that offers dissenters a way to share sensitive documents that otherwise would be extremely difficult to publish. Surely you all recognize the significance of an organization like this, right? I just hope none of you are taking this for granted, because all I see is a lot of mockery over some silly wording. seriously? you seriously believe this will have any effect? do you still believe in free speech? freedom of information? do you still believe that the "people" are this romantic organization of good-doers that will be forced to act for the benefit of all humanity? cmon man, seriously. its a pipe dream. if we had those freedoms we forfeit them a long long time ago. im not going to get into another long-winded rant here, but if the uneducated majority rules, you lose. Surely you all recognize the significance of an organization like this, right? No. They can post as many documents as they want to, and newspapers all over the world will be like "Omgz!" but it never leads to anything anyway, so unless they post pictures/videos of George Bush high fiving Osama Bin Laden it simply won't change anything. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plstik Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What Wikileaks thinks is "free speech", etc. is just clumsy, arrogant and ignorant, considering they didn't stop to consider the lives they put at risk by releasing such documents - from the front line troops to the operatives working behind enemy lines. I'm not judging whether the content constituted war crimes or was unjust, but exposing confidential information that endangers people is just irresponsible. What's worse, is the supplier(s) of the intel to Wikileaks share the same misguided ideals and clearly haven't stopped to assess the potential consequences of their actions. It would be one thing to release these documents AFTER the conflict was over, to expose the injustices undoubtedly committed by the players involved, but doing so during the conflict is just wrong, IMO, especially when it endangers lives needlessly. huh? I always thought they never put anyone in danger, the media/army just pushed it that way. *searches source* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 You guys seem awfully flippant about an organization that offers dissenters a way to share sensitive documents that otherwise would be extremely difficult to publish. Surely you all recognize the significance of an organization like this, right? I just hope none of you are taking this for granted, because all I see is a lot of mockery over some silly wording. seriously? you seriously believe this will have any effect? do you still believe in free speech? freedom of information? do you still believe that the "people" are this romantic organization of good-doers that will be forced to act for the benefit of all humanity? cmon man, seriously. its a pipe dream. if we had those freedoms we forfeit them a long long time ago. im not going to get into another long-winded rant here, but if the uneducated majority rules, you lose. If we are not going to exercise our right of free speech, If we do not fight for freedom of information, if we don't even bother to raise our arms to take action, then all of these things abilities will atrophy and fade away from disuse, like vestigial organs that no longer have a purpose. Use it or lose it. You could attribute the ineffectiveness of such tactics due to a mass of uneducated people. Where will the education come from, if not documents such as these? "I'll simply get my news from the papers and news outlets" you might say. The question then becomes, where will the news outlets get their information? Although you can debate the effectiveness of an organization such as WIkileaks, perhaps we can agree that resistance would certainly be weaker in it's absence. I would not be so rash as to discredit and forget about it's contribution only because you do not agree entirely with it's methodology. I would say that such infighting has been the downfall to many kinds of resistance that - although they are the majority - are unable to undo the actions of a highly organized cooperative minority. The atomization of the resistant population is probably one of the bigger obstacles that needs to be overcome in order to solve problems of this caliber. The fact is, that for anyone opposing the war, you and Wikileaks need to be allies. It would be foolish to get caught up on the particulars because everyone will have a different plan of attack when it comes to these things and we all ultimately have the same goal. Everyone has their own specialties that lend strength to others, though they may not directly apply to you. Wikileaks is simply an organ in a greater network of resistance that is much larger than the organization by itself. What is not of any use to a lot of people may become vitally important to someone who is, say, operating in legal channels. Perhaps you could ridicule the effectiveness of lawyers and constitutional scholars who are using their expertise in a manner that they feel will help to end the war. Wikileaks provides fodder for them to make a strong case. Perhaps the advances made by such experts set legal precedence and create legislative roadblocks, no matter how minor, that will impede the actions of war. Perhaps these legal rulings will make it possible for someone to safely undermine the war effort. Suppose these legal precedents give good reason to a soldier why they do not have to carry out the orders of their officers, because they know that they will be legally supported in their decision to do so. Suppose soldiers stop participating in war. We all need each other. If we resign ourselves to having already lost, then that's it. We have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What Wikileaks thinks is "free speech", etc. is just clumsy, arrogant and ignorant, considering they didn't stop to consider the lives they put at risk by releasing such documents - from the front line troops to the operatives working behind enemy lines. I'm not judging whether the content constituted war crimes or was unjust, but exposing confidential information that endangers people is just irresponsible. What's worse, is the supplier(s) of the intel to Wikileaks share the same misguided ideals and clearly haven't stopped to assess the potential consequences of their actions. It would be one thing to release these documents AFTER the conflict was over, to expose the injustices undoubtedly committed by the players involved, but doing so during the conflict is just wrong, IMO, especially when it endangers lives needlessly. War, such as the United States in Afghanistan, already endangers lives needlessly. But we know that. After the first large batch of documents was released months ago, the Pentagon issued the complaint that the indiscriminate release of such documents could compromise the well-being of certain individuals in the field. Well, Wikileaks publicly announced their willingness to collaborate with the Pentagon in obscuring such identities in order to resolve that claim. The Pentagon never took them up on such an offer. (1) Any way in which I can trip a thug on his way into infiltrating someone's home will be considered. It's hard to have sympathy for the well being of an aggressive force that is wreaking havoc on an entire country. Anything that can be done to unravel the technically illegal - under U.S. law - and shameful behavior of the United States military and it's operations seems better. t is bringing people closer and closer together and although I do not know these people who live across the world, I empathize with them. Indirectly or not, they are my neighbor and I find it immoral to allow their murder to continue at the hands of such a monster that - let's not forget - carries out it's atrocities in the name of the people of the United States of America, something that I simply cannot tolerate. 1. - http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/08/18/wikileaks018.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spratters Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 It's about the V Snares forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 What Wikileaks thinks is "free speech", etc. is just clumsy, arrogant and ignorant, considering they didn't stop to consider the lives they put at risk by releasing such documents - from the front line troops to the operatives working behind enemy lines. I'm not judging whether the content constituted war crimes or was unjust, but exposing confidential information that endangers people is just irresponsible. What's worse, is the supplier(s) of the intel to Wikileaks share the same misguided ideals and clearly haven't stopped to assess the potential consequences of their actions. It would be one thing to release these documents AFTER the conflict was over, to expose the injustices undoubtedly committed by the players involved, but doing so during the conflict is just wrong, IMO, especially when it endangers lives needlessly. NATO have confirmed that the release of the recent Middle East documents has not brought about any harm or evident danger to any informants. I'm trying to find the link for this within all of Assange's posts on twitter - he updates that everyday so there's so many to go through.. Google search has not proved useful but I do recall reading an in-depth article of NATO confirming this. I have to disagree with you Joyrex. The whole situation in the Middle East requires public attention. These are illegal occupations for profit and resource grabs, and the people affected by all this are the public of Afghanistan and Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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