modey Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 It's like, if a dude makes Acid because the sound of chewy 303s speaks to him & he thinks it's the best way to convey an emotion or idea, then that's cool. But if he's just thinking MAN I BET I CAN SOUND JUST LIKE A RAVE FROM 1989, then that's sorta ehhhhh What if sounding just like a rave from 1989 speaks to him and he thinks it's the best way to convey an emotion or an idea? I think the amen break should be put to bed. that's it, really. I was also going to mention retro themes and bladerunner-esque dialogue samples, but those still have life in them. edit: also, and I know this will not go down well with the watmm, but I only enjoy like 15% of acid music out there, it gets old really fast for me. but that's just my taste, not an indictment on acid itself. I agree with both statements. I enjoy the occasional acid squelch but when it's the sole melodic content of a track then that can get a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 did anybody mention the granular analysis stuttering randomizing whatever effect in glitch/idm? It was nice hearing it first in bucephalus bouncing ball and hangable auto bulb tracks, but it just turned into masturbatory drumbreak filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 I'm starting to get the feeling that complaining about cliches in electronic music is an electronic music cliche. Like, most of the people I know in real life are in rock bands or play guitar, & they don't go around to each other & say "oh, another song where you strum some chords & sing about your ex-girlfriend. Reeeeeaaaallll original bud" Maybe it's because a lot of electronic music people are more about the process & overall track atmosphere than the specific details contained within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 This is easily the most elitist thread I've read on WATMM in years, and thats saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME MAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EleminoP Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 being afraid to use cliches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest apeterlives Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I challenge you to post a recent song that you consider to not be cliche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
data Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNrxcggevA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Robert Henke AKA Monolake (involved in the conception of Ableton Live) in a recent interview (http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1522) Of course. I believe art cannot exist without clichés. I've never seen something 100% unique. I only see unique things if I don't know enough about what other people did. The more I learn about art in all forms, the more I understand that it's all a slow process. It's just people adding on top of each other. I believe more in interesting evolutions than anything revolutionary. I think what distinguishes interesting music from less interesting music is people either using the cliché in interesting ways or repeating it exactly. Sometimes the most successful and intriguing music is the one which uses the cliché, but looks at it from a slightly different angle. It's the same in movies. What makes a good movie? That you can somehow anticipate the next movement, and then it comes—but from a totally different angle. That's when you think, "Damn, this is cool." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Robert Henke AKA Monolake (involved in the conception of Ableton Live) in a recent interview (http://www.residenta...ature.aspx?1522) Of course. I believe art cannot exist without clichés. I've never seen something 100% unique. I only see unique things if I don't know enough about what other people did. The more I learn about art in all forms, the more I understand that it's all a slow process. It's just people adding on top of each other. I believe more in interesting evolutions than anything revolutionary. I think what distinguishes interesting music from less interesting music is people either using the cliché in interesting ways or repeating it exactly. Sometimes the most successful and intriguing music is the one which uses the cliché, but looks at it from a slightly different angle. It's the same in movies. What makes a good movie? That you can somehow anticipate the next movement, and then it comes—but from a totally different angle. That's when you think, "Damn, this is cool." Definitely relevant to my ideas about music and art in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 -sampling dialogue from an old movie without significant alteration. YEAH MAN I LIKED BLADE RUNNER TOO BUT IT ISN'T 1994 ANYMORE mostly yes. but it definitely works for burial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 why do people 'av to make such long threads, i can't be bothered to read 'em ! kaini, what's the gist????? -sampling dialogue from an old movie without significant alteration. YEAH MAN I LIKED BLADE RUNNER TOO BUT IT ISN'T 1994 ANYMORE mostly yes. but it definitely works for burial. wut. Blade Runner was made in 1984...... actually before that, cos it came out in 84, innit. what is his point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 fuck yeah skull trumpet piepuppy89 is swag. So is cboyardee, but he took down all of his videos because he's a whiny baby who can't handle an over-zealous fanbase. This is easily the most elitist thread I've read on WATMM in years, and thats saying something. I think it's also one of the funniest threads on WATMM. Don't know about years, but at least since I joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 making your album cover: ... random geometric shape... Digital art for wahrk's latest release. Cover for my Next Release. Artwork for a Quiliuq album I'm working on. My last album. Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Same with me and clouds.. Fuck it though, clouds are AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 i have to say, this forum is just the absolute of negative. everything here is so negative. it is the actual hell of internet forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 i have to say, this forum is just the absolute of negative. everything here is so negative. it is the actual hell of internet forums. http://pfhorums.com/ Pretty much the crappiest forum I've ever been to. It used to be worse. Then again, I was young when I started posting there and frequently made a fool of myself, and the people there are unrelenting in making fun of stupid people. No offense meant to the admins though; $lave is a cool guy. It has gotten better recently, although also a bit more dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 why do people 'av to make such long threads, i can't be bothered to read 'em ! kaini, what's the gist????? -sampling dialogue from an old movie without significant alteration. YEAH MAN I LIKED BLADE RUNNER TOO BUT IT ISN'T 1994 ANYMORE mostly yes. but it definitely works for burial. wut. Blade Runner was made in 1984...... actually before that, cos it came out in 84, innit. what is his point? It actually came out in 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 why do people 'av to make such long threads, i can't be bothered to read 'em ! kaini, what's the gist????? -sampling dialogue from an old movie without significant alteration. YEAH MAN I LIKED BLADE RUNNER TOO BUT IT ISN'T 1994 ANYMORE mostly yes. but it definitely works for burial. wut. Blade Runner was made in 1984...... actually before that, cos it came out in 84, innit. what is his point? It actually came out in 1982. 5485 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 songs that go tururururu tu tu *clap clap* tururururu tu tu at some point You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I sampled it before Does that mean im gay cos im ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 we should make a watmm comp were we abuse all these cliches on all tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coax Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 hey don't go around to each other & say "oh, another song where you strum some chords & sing about your ex-girlfriend. Reeeeeaaaallll original bud" maybe they should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 hey don't go around to each other & say "oh, another song where you strum some chords & sing about your ex-girlfriend. Reeeeeaaaallll original bud" maybe they should they def should and i do that all the time. i am very popular as you can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 hey don't go around to each other & say "oh, another song where you strum some chords & sing about your ex-girlfriend. Reeeeeaaaallll original bud" maybe they should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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